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The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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Post by 63stack »

dude250711 wrote: post #25
alkonaut wrote: post #20

All of this might as well be greek to me. I use ChatGPT and copy paste code snippets. Which was bleeding edge a year or two ago, and now it feels like banging rocks together when reading these types of articles. I never had any luck integrating agents, MCP, using tools etc. Like if I'm not ready to jump on some AI-spiced up special IDE, am I then going to just be left banging rocks together? It feels like some of the…

The idea is to produce such articles, not read them. Do not even read them as the agent is spitting them out - simply feed straight into another agent to verify.

Present it at the next team/management meeting to seem in the loop and hope nobody asks any questions

Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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Post by franze »

alkonaut wrote: post #20

All of this might as well be greek to me. I use ChatGPT and copy paste code snippets. Which was bleeding edge a year or two ago, and now it feels like banging rocks together when reading these types of articles. I never had any luck integrating agents, MCP, using tools etc. Like if I'm not ready to jump on some AI-spiced up special IDE, am I then going to just be left banging rocks together? It feels like some of the…

I am on the other side, I have given the complete control of my computer to Claude Code - Yolo Mode. Sudo. It just works. My servers run the same. I SSH into Claude Code there and let them do whatever work they need to do.

So my 2 cents. Use Claude Code. In Yolo mode. Use it. Learn with it.

Whenever I post something like this I get a lot of downvots. But well ... end of 2026 we will not use computer the way we use them now. Claude Code Feb 2025 was the first step, now Jan 2026 CoWork (Claude Code for everyone else) is here. It is just a much much more powerful way to use computers.

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Post by agumonkey »

prettygood wrote: post #40
alkonaut wrote: post #20

All of this might as well be greek to me. I use ChatGPT and copy paste code snippets. Which was bleeding edge a year or two ago, and now it feels like banging rocks together when reading these types of articles. I never had any luck integrating agents, MCP, using tools etc. Like if I'm not ready to jump on some AI-spiced up special IDE, am I then going to just be left banging rocks together? It feels like some of the…

I'm so happy someone else says this, because I'm doing exactly the same. I tried to use agent mode in vs code and the output was still bad. You read simple things like: "We use it to write tests". I gave it a very simple repository, said to write tests, and the result wasn't usable at all. Really wonder if I'm doing it wrong.

you need to write a test suite to check his test generation (soft /s)

Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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Post by simianparrot »

jbstack wrote: post #39
simianparrot wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Public shaming for sharing AI written slop is what we need more of.

Such public shaming loses its value when it's overused though (see: boy who cried wolf). The "written by AI" accusation is thrown around so much, when it often isn't even true, that it just triggers scepticism as the initial reaction. At least, it does for me.

But it’s also true in this case. I’ve had my own comments claimed to be AI by someone because I used a phrase like “delve into”, but a few false positives from the over-eager are to be expected even if it’s not optimal.

Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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Post by photios »

alkonaut wrote: post #20

All of this might as well be greek to me. I use ChatGPT and copy paste code snippets. Which was bleeding edge a year or two ago, and now it feels like banging rocks together when reading these types of articles. I never had any luck integrating agents, MCP, using tools etc. Like if I'm not ready to jump on some AI-spiced up special IDE, am I then going to just be left banging rocks together? It feels like some of the…

Copilot's agent mode is a disaster. Use better tools: try Claude Code or OpenCode (my favorite).

It's a new ecosystem with its own (atrocious!) jargon that you need to learn. The good news is that it's not hard to do so. It's not as complex or revolutionary as everyone makes it look like. Everything boils down to techniques and frameworks of collecting context/prompt before handing it over to the model.

Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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Post by jangxx »

franze wrote: post #52
alkonaut wrote: post #20

All of this might as well be greek to me. I use ChatGPT and copy paste code snippets. Which was bleeding edge a year or two ago, and now it feels like banging rocks together when reading these types of articles. I never had any luck integrating agents, MCP, using tools etc. Like if I'm not ready to jump on some AI-spiced up special IDE, am I then going to just be left banging rocks together? It feels like some of the…

I am on the other side, I have given the complete control of my computer to Claude Code - Yolo Mode. Sudo. It just works. My servers run the same. I SSH into Claude Code there and let them do whatever work they need to do. So my 2 cents. Use Claude Code. In Yolo mode. Use it. Learn with it. Whenever I post something like this I get a lot of downvots. But well ... end of 2026 we will not use computer the way we use th…

Don't say "we" when talking about yourself.

Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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Post by cobolexpert »

vidarh wrote: post #44
cobolexpert wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is something that continues to surprise me. LLMs are extremely flexible and already come prepackaged with a lot of "knowledge", you don't need to dump hundreds of lines of text to explain to it what good software development practices are. I suspect these frameworks/patterns just fill up the context with unecessary junk.

You get to 80% there (numbers pulled out of the air) by just telling it to do things. You do need more to get from 80% there to 90%+ there. How much more depends on what you're trying to do and in what language (e.g. "favourite" pet peeve: Claude occasionally likes to use instance_variable_get() in Ruby instead of adding accessors; it's a massive code smell), but there are some generic things, such as giving it instr…

I agree about the small tweaks like the Ruby accessor thing, I also have some small notes like that myself, to nudge the agent in the right direction.

Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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Post by cobolexpert »

epolanski wrote: post #47
cobolexpert wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is something that continues to surprise me. LLMs are extremely flexible and already come prepackaged with a lot of "knowledge", you don't need to dump hundreds of lines of text to explain to it what good software development practices are. I suspect these frameworks/patterns just fill up the context with unecessary junk.

> I suspect these frameworks/patterns just fill up the context with unecessary junk. That's exactly the point. Agents have their own context. Thus, you try to leverage them by combining ad-hoc instructions for repetitive tasks (such as reviewing code or running a test checklist) and not polluting your conversation/context.

Ah do you mean sub-agents? I do understand that if I summon a sub-agent and give it e.g. code reviewing instructions, it will not fill up the context of the main conversation. But my point is that giving the sub-agent the instruction "review this code as if you were a staff engineer" (literally those words) should cover most use cases (but I can't prove this, unfortunately).

Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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Post by torben-friis »

prettygood wrote: post #40
alkonaut wrote: post #20

All of this might as well be greek to me. I use ChatGPT and copy paste code snippets. Which was bleeding edge a year or two ago, and now it feels like banging rocks together when reading these types of articles. I never had any luck integrating agents, MCP, using tools etc. Like if I'm not ready to jump on some AI-spiced up special IDE, am I then going to just be left banging rocks together? It feels like some of the…

I'm so happy someone else says this, because I'm doing exactly the same. I tried to use agent mode in vs code and the output was still bad. You read simple things like: "We use it to write tests". I gave it a very simple repository, said to write tests, and the result wasn't usable at all. Really wonder if I'm doing it wrong.

I’m not particularly proAI but I struggle with the mentality some engineers seem to apply to trying.

If you read someone say “I don’t know what’s the big deal with vim, I ran it and pressed some keys and it didn’t write text at all” they’d be mocked for it.

But with these tools there seems to be an attitude of “if I don’t get results straight away it’s bad”. Why the difference?

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