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Verizon starts requiring 365 days of paid service before it will unlock phones

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Re: Verizon starts requiring 365 days of paid service before it will unlock phones

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Buy your own phone like everyone’s saying, but also use an MVNO instead of setting money on fire paying the major carriers. The better MVNOs even have multiple carriers and allow you to switch at any time.

TracFone / Straight Talk was my MVNO of choice, then Verizon bought them. >sigh(I wonder if this unlocking policy will retroactively apply to the locked Striaght Talk phone I bought back in October.)

Re: Verizon starts requiring 365 days of paid service before it will unlock phones

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My monthly plan payment would not go down if I brought my own phone.

You sure about that? Look up Visible, Mint Mobile, Total Wireless, US Mobile, Tello... Same carrier networks, same quality of service. You can even pay a bit extra for prioritized data and other fancy features. You can get basic unlimited plans for $15-30 and premium plans in the $30-50 range vs $100+ at the big carriers. The only difference is that you aren't paying for your "free" phone.

Yeah, I got screwed by both Sprint and Verizon in turn back in the day, so for ages I've just done T Mobile's prepaid plan with an unlocked phone.

Works great, no particular coverage issues, never used enough data to hit any notable throttling.

Re: Verizon starts requiring 365 days of paid service before it will unlock phones

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Having lived in a lot of countries over the past couple of decades, I can say this is absolutely something Americans do completely wrong. Just buy your phone at full price. The "free" phones cost significantly more than a full price phone.

Another label I fell for in the US was "lite" cooking oil. The fine print said "light in colour."

The "free" is just advertising and for people habituated to credit, it's a no-brainer. Pun intended.

Re: Verizon starts requiring 365 days of paid service before it will unlock phones

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I would find it so deeply enjoyable to see the homes of Verizon management equipped with paddlocks on their bathroom doors, refrigerators, garages, etc. It would be my pleasure to announce to them that the terms of service dictate that the padlocks would never be removed, but the new subscription fees would be announced shortly. It would be delicious to see such a delightful revenge sink deep into their lives. Until…

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Re: Verizon starts requiring 365 days of paid service before it will unlock phones

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of devices automatically lock once used on a carrier network

I don’t believe that’s true. Locking is entirely something done by carriers for promotionally-priced phones attached to active phone plans. Can you point me to anywhere documenting your claim? That would definitely be a new low if true, but I really don’t think that’s how it works.

Sadly it is true. It’s called Flex Lock or US Carrier Flex Policy: https://www.usmobile.com/blog/what-is-flex-lock/

The gist is that it allows a third-party seller to stock a bunch of identical, not-yet-locked phones and offer a choice of carrier plans. The phone binds to whichever carrier the user first activated on.

So if you’re buying a phone, verify it is not one of these units.

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