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> That last one took a bit of time, we went down the ESM/CJS bundling rabbithole, ran into lots of monorepo issues, and ultimately opted for a more explicit approach. shudders in vietnam war flashbacks congrats on launch guys!!! for those who want an independent third party endorsement, here's Brex CTO talking about Mastra in their AI engineering stack http://latent.space/p/brex
I wonder: Are there any large general purpose agent harnesses developed using Mastra? From what I can tell OpenCode chose not to use it.
A lot of people on here repeat that rolling your own is more powerful than using Langchain or other frameworks and I wonder how Mastra relates to this sentiment.
say more pls?
Congratulations! I’m a fan of the publicity work and general out-of-the-box DX! That stuff matters a lot and I’m happy you’re aware. I wonder: Are there any large general purpose agent harnesses developed using Mastra? From what I can tell OpenCode chose not to use it. A lot of people on here repeat that rolling your own is more powerful than using Langchain or other frameworks and I wonder how Mastra relates to this…
These days we see things going the other way, where teams that started rolling their own shift over to Mastra so they can focus on the agent vs having to maintain an internal framework.
The Latent Space article swyx linked earlier includes a quote from the Brex CTO talking about how they did that.
So the ultimate real life use case of this is having a bubble on your site that you click to chat with a bot?! Most users prefer to chat with an actual human being 99% of the times or immediately ask the bot to chat with one.
But tons of other use cases too, eg dev teams at Workday and PayPal have built an agentic SRE to triage their alerts, etc etc
> a `.network()` method that turns any agent into a routing agent say more pls?
But people kept asking us for a multi-agent primitive out of the box so we shipped `agent.network()`, which is basically dynamic hierarchy decided at runtime, pass in an array of workflows and agents to the routing agent and let it decide what to do, how long to execute for, etc!
It's built on top of Vercel AI elements/SDK and it seems to me that was a good decision.
My mental heuristic is:
Vercel AI SDK = library, low level
Mastra = framework
Then Vercel AI Elements gives you an optional pre built UI.
However, I read the blog post for the upcoming AI SDK 6.0 release last week, and it seems like it's shifting more towards being a framework as well. What are your thoughts on this? Are these two tools going to align further in the future?
I've been building with Mastra for a couple of weeks now and loving it, so congratulations on reaching 1.0! It's built on top of Vercel AI elements/SDK and it seems to me that was a good decision. My mental heuristic is: Vercel AI SDK = library, low level Mastra = framework Then Vercel AI Elements gives you an optional pre built UI. However, I read the blog post for the upcoming AI SDK 6.0 release last week, and it s…