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A 26,000-year astronomical monument hidden in plain sight (2019)

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Re: A 26,000-year astronomical monument hidden in plain sight (2019)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You are confusing the thing with the category of the thing. Religion the category is only a few hundred years old. The things that fall under that category go back at least as far as Neanderthal times.

it's an interesting point, and i don't think it can be resolved quite so neatly. to the people building such monuments, or writing such texts, the activity may have been closer to what we now refer to as "history" or "natural philosophy" (or even "civic infrastructure").

the fact that _now_, we have independent traditions referred to by those terms, and so categorize the ancient practices under "religion" is quite confusing, and it may be productive to make the distinction clear.

for a modern example, suppose we build a skyscraper in such a way that it lines up with, or reflects the setting sun on the solstice. we would regard this as "architecture", not "religion". i would be quite offended if, some thousand years from now, the aesthetic decision is dismissed as primitive superstition.

Re: A 26,000-year astronomical monument hidden in plain sight (2019)

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But is the star map there? This article seems to imply that it got demolished in 2022: https://www.oskarjwhansen.org/news/save-the-star-map

If so that is somewhat ironic. A message intended to communicate a date to thousands of years into the future got demolished a mere 86 years after its creation due to a drainage issue and a contract dispute.

Re: A 26,000-year astronomical monument hidden in plain sight (2019)

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I somehow doubt there is any future version of me that regrets joining The Long Now Foundation, and work like this is the main reason why.

If you're in SF you should pay them a visit and buy a coffee at The Interval; I think you'll find it worth the trip.

Re: A 26,000-year astronomical monument hidden in plain sight (2019)

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It is a convention of The Long Now Foundation to get people to think of time in terms of 10k years instead of a lifetime at best. It goes hand in hand with their 10k year clock.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock_of_the_Long_Now

Re: A 26,000-year astronomical monument hidden in plain sight (2019)

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I have once created a pendant to my friends’ wedding following a similar idea. A silver disk engraved one one side with the position of the planets and major moons at the moment of the ceremony. Fun thing is that the Galilean moons orbit fast enough that you can even read the intended minute. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIpFTPOIP60/

Re: A 26,000-year astronomical monument hidden in plain sight (2019)

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It is a convention of The Long Now Foundation to get people to think of time in terms of 10k years instead of a lifetime at best. It goes hand in hand with their 10k year clock. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock_of_the_Long_Now

> 10k year clock

a.k.a. cuckoo clock

Re: A 26,000-year astronomical monument hidden in plain sight (2019)

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post #24

But is the star map there? This article seems to imply that it got demolished in 2022: https://www.oskarjwhansen.org/news/save-the-star-map If so that is somewhat ironic. A message intended to communicate a date to thousands of years into the future got demolished a mere 86 years after its creation due to a drainage issue and a contract dispute.

It's in pieces, evidenced here: https://www.oskarjwhansen.org/news/save-the-star-map-decembe...

Re: A 26,000-year astronomical monument hidden in plain sight (2019)

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post #24

But is the star map there? This article seems to imply that it got demolished in 2022: https://www.oskarjwhansen.org/news/save-the-star-map If so that is somewhat ironic. A message intended to communicate a date to thousands of years into the future got demolished a mere 86 years after its creation due to a drainage issue and a contract dispute.

It's in pieces, evidenced here: https://www.oskarjwhansen.org/news/save-the-star-map-decembe...

At a loss for words. :|
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