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Our approach to age prediction

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Re: Our approach to age prediction

#41

It's nonsense and doesn't work. They have "age predicted" my account a couple of months back saying I'm under 18, while I'm a man in my 40s who uses ChatGPT for mostly work related stuff, and nothing that would indicate that it's someone under 18. So now they are asking for a government ID to prove it. Yeah, no thanks.

That's because it was never really about protecting the children.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

#42
post #18

> Viral challenges that could encourage risky or harmful behavior in minors Why would it encourage this for anyone?

Hey Al, they might be implying that non-minors would be impervious to the viral challenges based on some sort of well-developed critical thinking facilities. I am not so optimistic.

After watching politics over the past decade it seems people of all ages have no critical thinking skills.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

#43
post #31

Does regulators really care about a predicted age? I feel like they require hard proof of being above age to show explicit content. The only ones that care about predicted age is advertisers.

In the UK, age verification just has to be "robust" (not further specified). Face scanning, for example, is explicitly designated as an allowed heuristic.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

#44
I just asked ChatGPT. "Based on everything I've asked, how old do you think I am?" It was dead-on with its answer. It guessed 30-35. I'm 32.

That was just a spur-of-the-moment question. I've been using ChatGPT for over six months now.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

#45
well I hope it's better than Spotify's age prediction which came to the conclusion that I'm 87 years old.

Seriously though this is the most easily game-able thing imaginable, pretty sure teens are clever enough to figure out how to pretend to be an adult. If you've come to the conclusion that your product is unsuited for kids implement actual age verification instead of these shoddy stochastic surveillance systems. There's a reason "his voice sounded deep" isn't going to work for the cashier who sold kids booze

Re: Our approach to age prediction

#46
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm an engineer working on safety-critical systems and have to live with that responsibility every day. When I read the chat logs of the first teenager who committed suicide with the help and encouragement of ChatGPT I was immediately thinking about ways that could be avoided that make sense in the product. I want companies like OpenAI to have the same reaction and try things. I'm just glad they are. I'm also fully a…

Maybe we don’t all need saving from ourselves. Maybe we need to grow up and have some personal responsibility. As someone who is happy to do that, seeing personal freedom endlessly slashed in the name of safety is tiresome. My feelings have absolutely nothing to do with censorship. That’s just an easy straw man for you to try and dismiss my point of view, because you’re scared of not feeling safe.

I'm not under 18. I assume you aren't either.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

#47
post #30

This is 100% for advertising, not user safety. It’s absolutely crucial for effective ad monetization to know the users age - significant avenues are closed down due to various legislation like COPPA and similar around the world. It severely limits which users can even be subject to ads, the kind of ads, and whether data can be collected for profiling and targeting for ads.

Are you suggesting regulations designed to protect children actually require more data collection and enable the surveillance economy?

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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post #31

Does regulators really care about a predicted age? I feel like they require hard proof of being above age to show explicit content. The only ones that care about predicted age is advertisers.

It's not much for the regulators as much as its for the advertisers.

At this point, just use gemini (yes its google and has its issues if you need SOTA) or I have recently been trying out more and more chat.z.ai for simple text issues (like hey can you fix this docker issue etc.) and I feel like chat.z.ai is pretty good plus open source models (honestly chat.z.ai feels pretty SOTA to me)

Re: Our approach to age prediction

#50

I just asked ChatGPT. "Based on everything I've asked, how old do you think I am?" It was dead-on with its answer. It guessed 30-35. I'm 32. That was just a spur-of-the-moment question. I've been using ChatGPT for over six months now.

But did it tell on what basis it made that assumption?
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