> Viral challenges that could encourage risky or harmful behavior in minors
Why would it encourage this for anyone?
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#12When we look at how fast and coordinated the rollout of age verification has been around the globe, it's hard not to wonder if there was some impetus behind it.
There are dark sides to the rollout that EFF details in their resource hub: https://www.eff.org/issues/age-verification
There is a confluence of surveillance capitalism and a global shift towards authoritarianism that makes it particularly alarming right now.
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#13In case it wasn't clear LLM conversations are being analyzed in a similar way to the social media advertising profiles...
"Q: ipsum lorem
ChatGPT: response
Q: ipsum lorem"
OpenAI: take this user's conversation history and insert the optimal ad that they're susceptible to, to make us the most $
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#14Age detection was already very effective with Leisure Suit Larry 3 age questions.
https://allowe.com/games/larry/tips-manuals/lsl3-age-quiz.ht...
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#15I imagine they're building this system with the goal of extracting user demographics (age, sex, income) from chat conversations to improve advertising monetization.
This seems to be a side project of their goal and a good way to calibrate the future ad system predictions.
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#16They're trying to make ChatGPT more attractive to advertisers.
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#17I think this is good. I've been very aggressive toward OpenAI on here about parental controls and youth protection, and I have to say the recent work is definitely more than I expected out of them.
"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"
I'm an engineer working on safety-critical systems and have to live with that responsibility every day.
When I read the chat logs of the first teenager who committed suicide with the help and encouragement of ChatGPT I was immediately thinking about ways that could be avoided that make sense in the product. I want companies like OpenAI to have the same reaction and try things. I'm just glad they are.
I'm also fully aware this is unpopular on HN and will get downvoted by people who disagree. Too many software devs without direct experience in safety-critical work (what would you do if you truly are responsible?), too few parents, too many who are just selfishly worried their AI might get "censored".
There are really good arguments against this stuff (e.g. the surveillance effects of identity checks, the efficacy of age verification, etc.) and plenty of nuance to implementations, but the whole censorship angle is lame.
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#18> Viral challenges that could encourage risky or harmful behavior in minors Why would it encourage this for anyone?
Hey Al, they might be implying that non-minors would be impervious to the viral challenges based on some sort of well-developed critical thinking facilities. I am not so optimistic.
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#19The minority reports vibe is getting stronger by the minutes.
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#20Creepy people doing creepy things.