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Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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This is what basically everyone else has done over the past decade. Google used to put a different background behind ads in its search ( https://www.fsedigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Google... ). It made it really easy to tell what was an ad and skip over it quickly. Now it's a lot harder to quickly notice what's an ad and what isn't. Sites used to have banner ads. Now they show posts that look exactly like t…

What is shocking is that deception is the common. Accepted, argued for by some. Loosing trust of the site/app doing the deception is the result. Becoming common, accepted, trend, and then loosing trust in the whole industry is the result.

Yeah, it's bad enough for capable users, but it's a nightmare for old people and the unaware. The online space is full of scams, and there's no real safe haven.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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> I’m not willing to pay the apple tax any longer. Problem here is that when you decide you no longer wish to pay the tax and want to exit the walled garden, you discover that there's a heap of functionality and convenience you'll have to let go, and add complexity and cost to your setup. I actively avoided relying on iCloud even when it was the sane option, but many people that will feel like the walled garden is no…

>you discover that there's a heap of functionality and convenience you'll have to let go, and add complexity and cost to your setup. Which is? Every time I got an Apple product, it felt like a step back. They were late to widgets, late to AI. Their security is historically poor.

    > Their security is historically poor.
For the desktop Mac, the base OS is essentially UNIX. It is much more secure by default than Microsoft Windows. For the mobile Mac (iOS), they are much preferred by large corporations when giving mobile phones to employees. Why? Security is much better than Android.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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>you discover that there's a heap of functionality and convenience you'll have to let go, and add complexity and cost to your setup. Which is? Every time I got an Apple product, it felt like a step back. They were late to widgets, late to AI. Their security is historically poor.

> Every time I got an Apple product, it felt like a step back. They were late to widgets, late to AI. Their security is historically poor. It's not a bad thing to be late to AI. Most of it has shown to be a complete waste of time, money and resources. As for poor security - this has got to be a joke, right? If anything, it's the Windows world that has a piss poor track record when it comes to security. Apple meanwhil…

    > It's not a bad thing to be late to AI.
I remember thinking similar when JetBrains finally released LLMs integrated into their IDEs. I still don't love their integrated LLMs (too many silly suggestions that are simply syntax errors), but they were intentionally slow to release... to wait for some of the hype to blow over.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Google Play - at least on tablets - makes ads vs not ads much clearer and, if you're searching for one app very obviously (like "Kindle") puts that above the ads.

Companies good at selling and distributing ads have the confidence to not be annoying about them.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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The sickening truth is that most normals don't turn their attention in another way even when they recognize an ad for what it is.

Why should they if they’re buying some commoditized item on amazon, for example? I bought an ergonomic ice pack for my knee this morning, something I couldn’t find in the store near my house. Why should I scroll past the first, cheapest, decent looking item that meets my needs? As a moral duty, perhaps. At any rate, advertisement doesn’t necessarily mean scam.

In that scenario I can understand paying attention to ads, even though I personally don't. But normals will stay tuned in and eyes glued even for television ads pitching things they have no interest in. Hypnotized by the machine, indifferent to the commercial propaganda. Even asking them to mute the ads is met with puzzlement.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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I wasn't there to read the text, the screenshots say everything. Thought I was looking at the wrong pic cause it seemed obvious.

> I wasn't there to read the text, the screenshots say everything. That's the exact kind of attitude that will make people miss an "obvious" marker. And I wouldn't call that tiny thing on the third row of text obvious. Even knowing it said 'ad' somewhere, it took me several tries to find it.

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Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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I wasn't there to read the text, the screenshots say everything. Thought I was looking at the wrong pic cause it seemed obvious.

> I wasn't there to read the text, the screenshots say everything. That's the exact kind of attitude that will make people miss an "obvious" marker. And I wouldn't call that tiny thing on the third row of text obvious. Even knowing it said 'ad' somewhere, it took me several tries to find it.

> That's the exact kind of attitude

Apparently not though, I saw it said ad. Maybe you missed it because you were focused on the wall of text instead of the UI.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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This is what basically everyone else has done over the past decade. Google used to put a different background behind ads in its search ( https://www.fsedigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Google... ). It made it really easy to tell what was an ad and skip over it quickly. Now it's a lot harder to quickly notice what's an ad and what isn't. Sites used to have banner ads. Now they show posts that look exactly like t…

Amazon is so bad it's getting difficult to find the actual search results

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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>It's shocking that Apple hasn't done this trick yet when everyone else started doing it years ago. They sell a walled garden. If shit gets inside the walls, we might as well come out. I’m not willing to pay the apple tax any longer. Let the ad sellers pay if they’re the main costumers.

It’s still better than the alternatives

Only if you hate digital freedom
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