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Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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Post by owenb » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 12:21 PM UTC

zenocon wrote: post #37

hbbio wrote: post #10

"Meteor 0.5.0, available today, allows you to write secure realtime client-server applications in pure JavaScript. It's the only system of its kind in the world." That's an outright lie. cf. http://opalang.org

SocketStream http://socketstream.com lacks the media blitz, but it provides authentication and integrates with pretty much anything in NPM (one of the stated goals of the author), and still provides all the benefits of a real-time framework like Meteor (for more than a year now)

Thanks for the mention. I've just spoken at NodeDublin.com and released the first bit of very early code for SocketStream 0.4: https://github.com/socketstream/socketstream-0.4

It doesn't do much yet, but shows the direction I'm going in: More API based, pipeable Node Streams wherever possible, full npm / Node compatibility. Follow @socketstream for updates.

Also I want to congratulate the Meteor team on their release. Making scalable, reliable realtime web apps is hard and all work in this area benefits the entire community.

Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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Post by nivertech » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 12:21 PM UTC

prawn wrote: post #47

I saw the following tweet from PG within the last hour and wondered if it was a reference to some tech company launch. Then I came here and saw this story. Still not sure... @paulg: "Did anyone else see a fireball heading east over Silicon Valley at 7:44? (Meteor?)"

Pg had a typo: it should be "Firebase" not "fireball" ;)

Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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Post by xutopia » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 1:12 PM UTC

myhf wrote: post #20

Looks like they finally took the suicide joke off their homepage.

What was the suicide joke?

Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 2:07 PM UTC

vikstrous4 wrote: post #12

hbbio wrote: post #10

"Meteor 0.5.0, available today, allows you to write secure realtime client-server applications in pure JavaScript. It's the only system of its kind in the world." That's an outright lie. cf. http://opalang.org

I also have doubts about the effectiveness of their security, so I'd like to challenge that part of the statement too.

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Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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Post by raimondious » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 2:10 PM UTC

xutopia wrote: post #63

myhf wrote: post #20

Looks like they finally took the suicide joke off their homepage.

What was the suicide joke?

There was a guy who said something along the lines of "I'm going to slash my wrists if I have to keep doing web development the old way much longer!"

Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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Post by vikstrous4 » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 4:18 PM UTC

mattwdelong wrote: post #24

hbbio wrote: post #10

"Meteor 0.5.0, available today, allows you to write secure realtime client-server applications in pure JavaScript. It's the only system of its kind in the world." That's an outright lie. cf. http://opalang.org

What about nowjs? http://nowjs.com/

nowjs has no concept of security.

Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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Post by ajays » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 4:19 PM UTC

This looks very interesting, but can anyone tell me how scalable is this? All the examples I've seen are small scale; but can it support, say, 1000 clients? 10_000 ? Higher?

Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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Post by marknutter » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 4:25 PM UTC

jemeshsu wrote: post #56

Are Meteor or Derby frameworks to be used on the premise that you have only browser clients? If my Meteor/Derby web app has server component, how easy it is to build native iOS and Android clients to access the same data on the server?

Not as straightforward as in other more established server-side frameworks, I assume. It's part of the reason I'm reluctant to ditch my server-side framework of choice (Rails) in favor of an all-encompassing solution like Meteor. There are more than just javascript clients that need to access my APIs.

Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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Post by lars » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 4:36 PM UTC

ajays wrote: post #67

This looks very interesting, but can anyone tell me how scalable is this? All the examples I've seen are small scale; but can it support, say, 1000 clients? 10_000 ? Higher?

Meteor.com runs on meteor, and it survived their own launch, which was bigger than anyone seemed to expect. In practice, that's probably the biggest thing to run on meteor at the moment.

The framework is built around long lived requests, which push data to the client. There doesn't seem to be anything unscalable about that, since Facebook and many other huge sites are doing it.

That essentially leaves node.js and mongo, both of which should lend themselves to scaling pretty well.

Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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Post by prawn » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 9:26 PM UTC

izak30 wrote: post #48

prawn wrote: post #47

I saw the following tweet from PG within the last hour and wondered if it was a reference to some tech company launch. Then I came here and saw this story. Still not sure... @paulg: "Did anyone else see a fireball heading east over Silicon Valley at 7:44? (Meteor?)"

Nope. That is in reference to an actual, physical event, not a startup. My guess is that it's related to this: http://menlopark-atherton.patch.com/articles/orionids-meteor...

Amusing coincidence then!