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Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by abustamam »

coredog64 wrote: post #378
Traubenfuchs wrote: post #261

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I‘d argue it‘s often 100% unless you are looking for things so extremely specific no one paid ad/placement money for it.

Not even then, because search wants to show you something and it will just randomly grab ad placements to make up the difference.

Yeah I'll often look for something specific and I'll see listings that have nothing to do with what I'm looking for. Like I think I was looking for wide mouth nipples for baby bottles, a specific brand and model, and I was seeing baby toys. Like ok, they surmised I have a baby... But don't show it to me as a result for a query for something completely different.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by gunapologist99 »

6510 wrote: post #310
caminanteblanco wrote: post #125

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I think the other replies are missing your 'sheet' pun, from my knowledge and a quick search, I think you coined it

I hate to quote an AI but I got this.... >Ensheetification is a newly coined, informal term, likely from Hacker News, describing the trend where web/app interfaces become dominated by large, card-like "sheets" or panels that slide up, covering content, similar to how apps like Google Maps, Instagram, and Apple's iOS use full-screen or partial-screen overlays, effectively "sheeting over" previous views to present new…

Seriously reads like a hallucination

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by alex1138 »

alt227 wrote: post #413
alex1138 wrote: post #402

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Perhaps, though Apple outright revoked FB's certificate after the Onavo nonsense, that counts for something

Yeah and why did they do that? People think its because Apple are looking after you. In reality its because it allowed Facebook to target Ads at Apple users. Something Apple fiercly guards the privilage of doing only for itself.

I thought it was because FB was wildly abusing its privileges, it would not be the first time

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by chasing0entropy »

isodev wrote: post #381
MonkeyClub wrote: post #368

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> I’m not willing to pay the apple tax any longer. Problem here is that when you decide you no longer wish to pay the tax and want to exit the walled garden, you discover that there's a heap of functionality and convenience you'll have to let go, and add complexity and cost to your setup. I actively avoided relying on iCloud even when it was the sane option, but many people that will feel like the walled garden is no…

> here's a heap of functionality and convenience you'll have to let go That's a very outdated point of view. All mobile ecosystems have practical feature parity. Convenience - that's a tricky one. With Apple stuff, you only have convenience if you're one of the bubble people who has their entire family and close friends in the Apple ecosystem. The reality outside that is that for every 1 iOS person, there are ~2 non…

Oh how I wish that was universally true. Unfortunately ive experienced strong discrimination for green checks especially amongst boutique SMB servicers

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by 3eb7988a1663 »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #272
3eb7988a1663 wrote: post #101

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Sure enough, this looks great. Found a blog post where someone did the exact same thing. Unlike the Firefox mechanism of usercontent.css which requires a reboot after every change(?) this works dynamically on a page reload. Now trivial to restyle some content which would otherwise not hit a blocklist. https://darekkay.com/blog/ublock-website-themes/

As someone extremely adverse to plugs, I was unaware ubo (the only plugin I use) was capable of this. Thank you!

Similar boat, so the no-novel extensions bit is an enormous win.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by chamomeal »

shantara wrote: post #33

It recently occurred to me that it’s been years since it was possible to find some new and interesting app just by browsing the App Store, like it used to be when iPhone and Android were first introduced. Now I open the store knowing in advance what exactly I’m looking for and take care not to accidentally click on a lookalike.

Try to find a slideshow app that just plays photos as a slideshow. The first 10 results are all the same app with different skins. You try to make a slideshow and after adding 10 photos it wants you to upgrade to a $10/month SUBSCRIPTION to MAKE SLIDESHOWS.

Only a problem because apple removed the ability to change your slideshow speed. Tried showing my fam a trip recently and it flies through at mach 5

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by eigencoder »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #115
cdrnsf wrote: post #41

Not only are Apple's services bad, they've becoming inescapable. It's rumored that they'll add ads to maps as soon as next year. Music.app is simply an ad for Apple Music, Books.app is like reading in a Barnes and Noble while someone from marketing looks over your shoulder and their TV app features their own shows to an overbearing degree — everything else is becoming more of an afterthought.

> Music.app is simply an ad for Apple Music, If you use iTunes Match or load your own MP3s every time you open the app the search field is set to “Apple Music” and the search fails until you toggle it, every time. Been like that for 2+ years

Buried in settings there's a way to turn off Apple Music (the subscription) and limit to only your own mp3s.

I tried to run both my music library and Apple Music subscription together, but found that when I let my subscription lapse, all my playlists got deleted, even the ones that just used my own music. Now I'm staying FAR away from apple music the subscription.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by bethekidyouwant »

olyjohn wrote: post #425
MonkeyClub wrote: post #368

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> I’m not willing to pay the apple tax any longer. Problem here is that when you decide you no longer wish to pay the tax and want to exit the walled garden, you discover that there's a heap of functionality and convenience you'll have to let go, and add complexity and cost to your setup. I actively avoided relying on iCloud even when it was the sane option, but many people that will feel like the walled garden is no…

Oh no I lost my conveniences! Cry me a river. Are people really so weak we can't even give up little things to show these fucking tech companies we don't like what they are doing?

Wait, do you like what android and Microsoft are doing ?

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Post by specialist »

spolitry wrote: post #400
specialist wrote: post #345

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> You simply cannot pretend to be that trademark product/business Some fraction of consumers are duped. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many knockoffs. If I enter Acme Orbital Thrusters into a search engine, the exact match, their actual website, must be the top hit. Otherwise it's a racket, not a search engine.

How much did you pay for that search engine?

You worried Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Apple will cease to exist if they stop tricking their audience?

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by axelthegerman »

abustamam wrote: post #434
dymk wrote: post #433

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Well, the alternatives is Android and... not really much else, for a full-featured smartphone. Say what you will about Apple, they're not perfect, but they have a better track record w.r.t privacy than Google in every way. I'm not saying I like what Apple is doing here, but I trust Google a lot less with my data.

There are ways to have full featured smartphones without Google, like Graphene OS. I am not aware of any alternatives that exist for Apple devices though

This! Sure you might need a Google account for your android but you don't HAVE to use all their services.

First just don't use Gmail, docs, search, chrome and co. But even better get a Pixel with Graphene and Google's invasive tactics are even more limited.

However it is sad that a company like Apple that used to produce superior hardware with superior UX is falling apart on all fronts - hardware (especially pricing), UX (hello glass design), software (macos just getting worse every release without adding ANYTHING of value)

And now introducing more and more ads while keep selling you "pro" laptops with 512GB SSD :-/

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