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Danish pension fund divesting US Treasuries

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Re: Danish pension fund divesting US Treasuries

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> $100 million Is that a lot? Seems relatively inconsequential in the grand scheme of things, but perhaps a warning of larger moves to come.

It's a pension fund of/for teachers in Denmark. That amount in U.S. Treasuries sounds like an expected size to me.

Re: Danish pension fund divesting US Treasuries

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post #2

What happens when USD stops becoming the the reserve currency for the world? And who takes its place?

Look up something called "dedollarization," it's been talked about in academic circles for quite some time and now more mainstream institutions are discussing it more too.

Re: Danish pension fund divesting US Treasuries

#33
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A sensible response, indeed. Investing is about finding the right balance of risk vs reward. When a country becomes less reliable, it becomes a less attractive investment, until the interest they pay rises enough to compensate for the additional risk. Edit: Yes, I am being sarcastic.

When facing war you have more important things to think about, including confiscation and freezing of assets

Both can be true. Start with soft preemptive planning for both reasons.

Re: Danish pension fund divesting US Treasuries

#34
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What happens when USD stops becoming the the reserve currency for the world? And who takes its place?

I doubt it would be replaced by a single global reserve currency. More likely there would be a handful of currencies that perform a similar role (USD, EUR, CNY, maybe some others) and which you primarily use depends on whose sphere of influence you are in.

Re: Danish pension fund divesting US Treasuries

#35

The US keeps voting to raise its debt cieling. Theres not end in sight to endless taxation by both parties. Nobody is reducing spending and delivery continues to go down.

Congress passed a tax cut last year for the wealthiest as part of the One Big Beautiful Bill (“OBBB”) that increases the debt by $1T-$4T over ten years. What taxation by both parties?

The US pays $800B/year to service debt. It pays $800B-$1T/year for the military. What would you like cut that is discretionary? There appears to be no appetite to raise taxes on the wealthy, pay down debt, and reduce military spending. So US credit card go brrr. We’ll hit a debt spiral eventually.

https://usafacts.org/government-spending/

Re: Danish pension fund divesting US Treasuries

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post #2

What happens when USD stops becoming the the reserve currency for the world? And who takes its place?

That would never happen until the US Navy ceases to be effective globally.

What is the theory of how the US Navy keeps the dollar the reserve currency, when the US has made itself a pariah state? What mechanism? Would the US Navy be doing piracy and demand protection money in dollars? Piracy payoffs would be a far far lower demand for dollars than there currently is and, and also greatly reduce all other trade with the US, further reducing demand for US dollars.

Really curious what your reasoning is here.

Re: Danish pension fund divesting US Treasuries

#37
This divestment is so little and with so little aim.

The whole situation is been caused by a single guy and 400 enablers, whereas the US is a 400 million people country.

The correct form of reaction is a punch in the face during a bilateral meeting, Zelensky came close to doing it but unfortunately he resisted his impulse , that's where the epicenter of all newly generated global problems in the last 10 years lies, in that octogenarian brian of his.

Re: Danish pension fund divesting US Treasuries

#38
When I actually look at the data, a lot of US deficit growth came from several specific shocks, with inconsistent years of recovery.

- 9/11

- Iraq War

- Covid

The US did recover a bit deficit-wise in Obama years, but have not reset the fiscal picture from Covid.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFSD

Re: Danish pension fund divesting US Treasuries

#39

> $100 million Is that a lot? Seems relatively inconsequential in the grand scheme of things, but perhaps a warning of larger moves to come.

Whilst this might be symbolic, money managers don’t tend to do symbolism. Surely it’s more likely that they fear what’s to come: an economic war against the dollar as pushback for the threats from Trump. So selling before the price tanks makes good sense.

Re: Danish pension fund divesting US Treasuries

#40

The US keeps voting to raise its debt cieling. Theres not end in sight to endless taxation by both parties. Nobody is reducing spending and delivery continues to go down.

We don’t need tax cuts, we need higher taxes and less spending on the rich&old. Our welfare system is completely backwards, if you are facing declining fertility and struggling young people - you don’t continue to tax the young to spend on the wealthier generation.

Unfortunately most young people don’t realize they are being hoodwinked and so poll extremely supportive of this scheme.

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