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UK consulting on bringing in social media ban for under 16s

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Re: UK consulting on bringing in social media ban for under 16s

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Porn block ineffective at capturing enough personal data. UK considers how it can build its own great firewall.

The UK has had a great firewall for decades - try going to a kiddie porn site or a torrent site and you will be unable to connect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_blocking_in_the_United_Kin...

Re: UK consulting on bringing in social media ban for under 16s

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Probably going to illicit some bad responses, but hopefully here, people might see what I am trying to say.

While I am annoyed a "ban" has to come into play for social media, it seems to be the only thing we can do in the short term, but as a person in the IT industry, I do wonder if we are missing doing an RCA on the issue.

Even as an adult with a child, I can't see us ever letting our kid actually use social media till they understand it, and that comes down to parenting properly, teaching them the right way, and letting them know of the dangers.

However, I see the root cause as these are commercial platforms which enable the person with more money to throw their version of events at all of us, not just kids and adults. I can see that it isn't just the kids we have to worry about, but we have adults in high places who will believe the same thing, and while we worry about the children in this, there are adults who could do serious damage to themselves and others, and people would look the other way.

These days, people need to have different ways to talk to each other. Yes, I know we used to have letters, then telegrams, then everything evolves, but live changes, and information is so much more freely available. Locking people out of good information means that you are essentially stopping them from seeing the wider picture. Moving closer to sensorship.

For me, its frustrating that this the direction we are going in, but it doesn't actually solve the issue. It just passes it along to later on, further time away, for it to then cause more damage later on. How many times have we as IT people left something and had to then deal with the issues later on.

Social media is just that, it isn't good. I try to stay away from it, but in a way it is the only way I do get updates on what happens to my friends, globally. The world is changing, and we need to adapt, but we need to put the right guardrails in the right place.

Personally, I think the blanket ban is not the right thing to do, but in the short term, we have ended up being the only option we can do, and that isn't good. That is why for me, a ban isn't good. It isn't because I don't think it will help, I just believe it doesn't solve the problem itself.

Re: UK consulting on bringing in social media ban for under 16s

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Porn block ineffective at capturing enough personal data. UK considers how it can build its own great firewall.

The UK has had a great firewall for decades - try going to a kiddie porn site or a torrent site and you will be unable to connect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_blocking_in_the_United_Kin...

Did you just equate a social media ban and torrenting to... child pornography?

Re: UK consulting on bringing in social media ban for under 16s

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What is it about this 16 y/o cutoff that seems to be the focus everywhere? Why not 18?

It almost seems like this will make SM attractive by making it a kind of forbidden fruit and/or a social standing status indicator for impressionable, malleable minded, underdeveloped minds of teens seeking to feel like adults.

In other words, if I didn’t know any better, I would have guessed that it might actually be the likes of Facebook pushing these controls internationally (not the least because they seem so coordinated all across the planet) in order to manipulate target users into coveting having a fb/SM account again.

Tell me you think Facebook, the same Facebook that was caught running uncontrolled and illegal psychological manipulation testing on its users, would not do such a thing!

Re: UK consulting on bringing in social media ban for under 16s

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Doing their level best to piss off the entire electorate with additional bureaucracy. Makes zero sense unless they’re actually trying to lose the next election.

I opened Snapchat for 5 mins in Australia (on a trip there) and now it’s demanding I prove my age.

Re: UK consulting on bringing in social media ban for under 16s

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Porn block ineffective at capturing enough personal data. UK considers how it can build its own great firewall.

The UK has had a great firewall for decades - try going to a kiddie porn site or a torrent site and you will be unable to connect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_blocking_in_the_United_Kin...

It’s just DNS though isn’t it. Trivial to bypass, some ISPs don’t even bother.

Re: UK consulting on bringing in social media ban for under 16s

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UK has had a great firewall for decades - try going to a kiddie porn site or a torrent site and you will be unable to connect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_blocking_in_the_United_Kin...

Did you just equate a social media ban and torrenting to... child pornography?

No, he gave two different examples of websites that is typically blocked in the United Kingdom
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