Looks great. Does it need all users to install Reticulum, or app/service prividers (online shop etc) on Reticulum can make their services available for access via browsers?
Reticulum, a secure and anonymous mesh networking stack
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#12I just happened to recently learn about Reticulum from another part of the internet and find it fascinating. Am I correct in thinking that it can basically run on anything that can run arbitrary code and the ability to talk to another device? (seems like it'd even work over serial if one had the determination to make it work)
The only fully-functional stack currently available requires Python >= 3.8, which is the main limitation to where it will run. But there’s still a lot you can do with that!
there is a pretty compatible rust implementation as well which claims to target microcontrollers https://github.com/BeechatNetworkSystemsLtd/Reticulum-rs
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#13The Software shall not be used, directly or indirectly, in the creation of an artificial intelligence, machine learning or language model training dataset, including but not limited to any use that contributes to the training or development of such a model or algorithm.
I saw this too and immediately thought: well, they published this on GitHub which surely has a clause that grants it a license to use the code for training Copilot for Microsoft at a minimum, sooo should've published on another Git platform.
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#14The Software shall not be used, directly or indirectly, in the creation of an artificial intelligence, machine learning or language model training dataset, including but not limited to any use that contributes to the training or development of such a model or algorithm.
I saw this too and immediately thought: well, they published this on GitHub which surely has a clause that grants it a license to use the code for training Copilot for Microsoft at a minimum, sooo should've published on another Git platform.
> This repository is a public mirror. All development is happening elsewhere.
So if I have code on a personal (but publicly exposed) git server with a license that includes the above quoted terms, and someone decides they want to be helpful and publish a public read-only mirror of my code to GitHub, then they’re allowed to accept that license on my behalf? I never did a thing and yet I’m now in a contract with Microsoft? How does this work legally?
Re: Reticulum, a secure and anonymous mesh networking stack
#15Looks great. Does it need all users to install Reticulum, or app/service prividers (online shop etc) on Reticulum can make their services available for access via browsers?
all users need to be running the reticulum network stack to be able to send, receive, and route packets.
reticulum itself describes the network stack (like tcp/ip) and it has its own protocols like LXMF for messaging and LXST for streaming. applications can be built on top of these protocols.
it’s different than IP, instead of addresses, each node has an identity that’s a cryptographic key pair that you send messages to, the routing happens in the background regardless of network topology or diversity of link types.
you CAN send reticulum packets over a TCP/IP adapter and thus across the normal Internet (there are a lot of testnet and community nodes that are accessed this way), but the protocol also seamlessly bridges over any interface (lora, bluetooth, HAM radio, etc) that is attached to the node.
so like, there could be a message sent over lora to a base station that relays it to another server through the internet, then that server sends it out over a ham radio link to another computer somewhere else, etc.
all the message sender has to know is the pubkey of the node they want to talk to, and the network figures out how to establish a link.
128 hops maximum.
the prerolled binaries of the aforementioned software include the network stack and easy enough presets to find content from other nodes and people to talk to.
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#16The Software shall not be used, directly or indirectly, in the creation of an artificial intelligence, machine learning or language model training dataset, including but not limited to any use that contributes to the training or development of such a model or algorithm.
I saw this too and immediately thought: well, they published this on GitHub which surely has a clause that grants it a license to use the code for training Copilot for Microsoft at a minimum, sooo should've published on another Git platform.
Not sure GitHub has such a clause. Just looked at their terms and don't see it.
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#17How does this differ from meshtastic? Is meshtastic just more chat based and this is more generic?
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#18This is cool, I’ve been playing around Offline Protocol’s DORS SDK that they put out last month and it’s been great for cross platform whereas Bitchat’s Noise setup was a little more cumbersome to get started. Need to dig more into LoRa meshes.
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#19How does this differ from meshtastic? Is meshtastic just more chat based and this is more generic?
meshtastic is chat and lora only. its protocol is super inefficient and unreliable, and only can handle a maximum of 7 hops across the mesh.
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#20I've never seen a bigger network with Reticulum in the wild. And I'm deep into Mesh stuff with several local communities.
One of the main reasons of the communities not jumping onto the ship was that it's mostly a one-man-project and most of its Git changes are "Update" "Better Version" "Update" "Cleanup" which makes it basically impossible to track changes.