> cryps1s Post by CISO @OpenAI. Must be a slow day.
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Starlink users must opt out of all browsing data being used to train xAI models
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Re: Starlink users must opt out of all browsing data being used to train xAI models
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's gross, but of course we think many ISPs are abusive in similar ways? I haven't ever used a Starlink connection, I wonder if their latency a problem for VPNs or tunneling.
They say 20-60ms, users seem to report 30-200ms. Seems very dependent on where you're at.
I average 20-25ms at my lake home in Central MN on Starlink Residential lite; very similar to my Comcast Business connection at my house.
It’s crazy to me, frankly.
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#13I was on the fence with switching to starlink from cellular data, but I realy cant stand the idea of a wrestling match with another giant corporation, weaponising "may", might", "occasionaly", "certain terms and conditions", "reserve the right to" better the perv I know then some new more ambitios one.
It's gross, but of course we think many ISPs are abusive in similar ways? I haven't ever used a Starlink connection, I wonder if their latency a problem for VPNs or tunneling.
i have my starlink plugged directly into a gl.inet router that runs a wireguard client. all of the clients connect to the gl.inet wifi. absolutely nothing unencrypted goes out the starlink wan.
it works fine.
i have the exact same setup at home with cox cable, because they will data mine the shit out of your traffic (and they have your phone number and home address to link it to). most terrestrial residential isps do this shit. vpn everything.
Re: Starlink users must opt out of all browsing data being used to train xAI models
#14https://x.com/scottbuscemi/status/2013397238568099843?s=20
last item here seems to indicate that the OP tweet is a (bad faith?) overly broad reading. The "in accordance with our privacy policy" link part is showing right there in that original tweet, and doesn't seem to have been checked.
I know a lot of people think Musk is simply a mustachio-twirling comic book villain so there's not a lot of critical thinking ever applied to this sort of story, but even still, he'd have to be an order of magnitude dumber than buying Twitter, to think they could just train on all browsing data and that people would be chill about it.
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#15It was impossible to do this through the app (a website opened from the app XD) or the website.
When creating the ticket,a chat opens and a warning appeared: "By continuing, you agree that your data will be used to train AI models. See the Privacy Policy for how to opt out."
Does this mean it's impossible to get support if I don't want AI?
After disgustingly evading Grok's support AI, was it possible to open the ticket to disable data sharing for AI training and therefore cancel future support? XD
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#16Like what data, my DNS queries and TCP connects? Ok I guess
Re: Starlink users must opt out of all browsing data being used to train xAI models
#17https://x.com/scottbuscemi/status/2013397238568099843?s=20 last item here seems to indicate that the OP tweet is a (bad faith?) overly broad reading. The "in accordance with our privacy policy" link part is showing right there in that original tweet, and doesn't seem to have been checked. I know a lot of people think Musk is simply a mustachio-twirling comic book villain so there's not a lot of critical thinking ever…
why do you think buying twitter was dumb?
Re: Starlink users must opt out of all browsing data being used to train xAI models
#18https://x.com/scottbuscemi/status/2013397238568099843?s=20 last item here seems to indicate that the OP tweet is a (bad faith?) overly broad reading. The "in accordance with our privacy policy" link part is showing right there in that original tweet, and doesn't seem to have been checked. I know a lot of people think Musk is simply a mustachio-twirling comic book villain so there's not a lot of critical thinking ever…
why do you think buying twitter was dumb?
One curious thing is they SOLD it to him.
Re: Starlink users must opt out of all browsing data being used to train xAI models
#19https://x.com/scottbuscemi/status/2013397238568099843?s=20 last item here seems to indicate that the OP tweet is a (bad faith?) overly broad reading. The "in accordance with our privacy policy" link part is showing right there in that original tweet, and doesn't seem to have been checked. I know a lot of people think Musk is simply a mustachio-twirling comic book villain so there's not a lot of critical thinking ever…
> , to think they could just train on all browsing data and that people would be chill about it.
I mean, he does think he can do what he wants with impunity and track record is that yes, he can. He thinks that asking his bot to not produce child porn is an imposition, for example.
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