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Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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post #233

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Yes yes, so does a street sweeper. Someone pays them because the road is dirty, and they use a broom to deliver the solution of a cleaner street, which is of value to the user. Do you see why that’s marketing speak? You’re using vague terms which can be applied to anything. It avoids commitment and makes whatever you do seem grandiose. That’s marketing. A few years ago, every app developer and designer was a “story t…

No, not at all. There are people who love coding for the sake of it, they are passionate about the technology and would be doing it whether it was their career or not. They do it for fun. We both write software, but I derive pleasure from making money from products, they derive pleasure from the writing itself. If I could no longer sell products and make money I wouldn’t do any coding. You don’t think there is any di…

> but I derive pleasure from making money

I thought you loved “delivering value/solutions” and that “the happy consumer and the polished product is what gives [you] satisfaction”. Thank you for admitting what you care about is the money. That was clear from the marketing speak.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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> The enshitification of the internet is largely driven by people ad blocking This is unfairly putting the blame on only one rational actor in a prisoner's dilemma. Content providers are free to put their content behind a paywall with no ads, but they choose not to. They choose not to because people don't pay for content when they can get it from other providers who don't use a paywall. Consumers then are left withou…

Just a note that many creators integrate the advertisement of their sponsors into their content presentation and not all of that can be stopped by ad blockers (most, in fact, can't). Those creators also tend to have a Patreon or similar so their content can be supported directly. And I'd wager that's a much better model for the creators than relying on ads they don't even select themselves and that possibly clash wit…

The SponsorBlock extension automatically skips the type of integrated ads you're referring to.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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post #56

Happy for everyone who enjoys it. For me it's the opposite: AI everywhere sucks the joy out of it and I'm seriously starting to consider a career shift after roughly 10 years of writing code for a living.

There seems to be two camps of people: those who love the coding and those who love delivering value/solutions. I am in the latter camp. The happy consumer and the polished product is what gives me satisfaction, the code is just really a vehicle from A to B. It’s a shame for anyone in the first camp who wants a career.

Some love to paint, while many just want a picture.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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post #442

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No, not at all. There are people who love coding for the sake of it, they are passionate about the technology and would be doing it whether it was their career or not. They do it for fun. We both write software, but I derive pleasure from making money from products, they derive pleasure from the writing itself. If I could no longer sell products and make money I wouldn’t do any coding. You don’t think there is any di…

> but I derive pleasure from making money I thought you loved “delivering value/solutions” and that “the happy consumer and the polished product is what gives [you] satisfaction”. Thank you for admitting what you care about is the money. That was clear from the marketing speak.

You’re being ridiculous. This is my job, I love it. It’s not purely about the money. I enjoy building, maintaining, supporting products, it’s just that without the selling part I wouldn’t be doing it, I would have to do another job and I would have greater preferences for spending my free time. Almost everyone ultimately works for money, that doesn’t necessarily mean they don’t like their job. Come on, you know this…

The distinction is obvious and you’re clearly just expressing an emotional reaction.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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post #80

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Because it's better for marketing. Doesn't matter if it's true.

what marketing? this must have been done 1000 times just in last month. There is nothing new here. At best its for personal use.

If it was for personal use, it wouldn't be on the internet and advertised on sites like this.

So it is at least marketed for personal reasons. I don't know why, but it could be for ad revenue, resume filling, ego bolstering.

This is the problem with AI music generation too. Many people actually feel like they made something and are proud, despite just having clicked a button after asking for a result. This gives them some kind of feeling of accomplishment, despite having done absolutely nothing for it.

The title even says so 'I quit, but AI brought me back'. No, it didn't, you're not back, you just paid someone on Fiver a couple bucks and then used his work to pretend you're back.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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We're busy building real software, not toys. I routinely write all kinds of calculators in my game development, in addition to having 100x more complex code to contend with. This task is as trivial as it gets in coding, considering computers were literally made to calculate and calculation functions are part of standard libraries. OP definitely didn't use Claude to implement math functions from scratch, they just did…

You're right that this is simple compared to what real engineers build. I have a lot of respect for people like you who write things like custom math libraries for cross-CPU determinism — that's way beyond my level. I'll keep learning and try to make this less of a toy over time. And hopefully I can bring what I've learned from years in investing into my next product to actually help people. Thanks for the perspectiv…

This response makes it 100% clear to me that this is just a bot. The verbatim use of a completely random thing like 'custom math libraries for cross-CPU determinism', combined with the agreeable tone and em dash use are pretty much a dead giveaway.

The internet has become so useless, everywhere is just marketing nonsense and bots.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

#450
post #367

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> What’s even the point of writing out that first paragraph otherwise? I was correcting your misguided statement: > Their critics didn’t make that! by pointing out that we, among other things, build the libraries that you/Claude are copy-and-pasting from. When you make an assertion that is factually incorrect, and someone corrects you, that does not mean they are threatened.

Did you build a library? If you did, did you put yourself in a clean room and forget about every existing library you’ve ever seen? Have you made sure your code doesn’t repeat anything you’ve seen in a CS101 textbook? Is your hello world completely unique and non-identical to the one in the book? When you write a song do you avoid using any chord progression that has been used by someone else? LLMs are just doing a d…

> My claim is that they’re seeing something they want to exist and they’re making it exist and putting it out there, while the vast majority of haters aren’t exactly out there contributing to much of anything in terms of “real software engineering.”

Except that they didn't. They thought of something and then asked a tool to make it badly. I know it's hard to separate for a lot of people and it makes them feel like they made something. It's especially bad when that thing then has stuff on it like "Made with attention to accuracy" or some similar marketing claim when there is zero accuracy and a bunch of mistakes in there.

But me running the cmd to create the Hello World angular example does not mean i made anything.

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