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Re: Greenland Crisis

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Post by telotortium »

lumost wrote: post #13
BolsunBacset wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is too short sighted to blame this all on Trump. The core issue is the West has abdicated its sovereignty and military to the US long ago.

And the US in turn abdicated its separation of powers. A US president lacks the ability to make treaties, or use military force without congressional authorization. In what world does the president have the authority to annex an autonomous territory from an ally?

The world where he does it and then tries to present it to Congress as a fait accompli. If the security concerns around Greenland are seen as legitimate enough, he’ll get his Democratic congressmen to approve it, particularly as it’s unlikely that it would become a state (too few people).

Re: Greenland Crisis

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Post by vee-kay »

lumost wrote: post #13
BolsunBacset wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is too short sighted to blame this all on Trump. The core issue is the West has abdicated its sovereignty and military to the US long ago.

And the US in turn abdicated its separation of powers. A US president lacks the ability to make treaties, or use military force without congressional authorization. In what world does the president have the authority to annex an autonomous territory from an ally?

In the world that thinks and does: "Might is Right".

Oh wait, that's the history of humanity - especially the bloody brutal history of Colonialism & Imperialism.

USA (rather The Five Eyes led by USA), EU, China are not just nations or blocs. They are Empires.

And this is what Empires do best: war (war for oil/resources, war for territory, war for wealth & glory, war for slaves, etc.)

Re: Greenland Crisis

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Post by telotortium »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #16

It would be the largest welfare state in the union.

Welfare perhaps. State, almost certainly not. If this did come to pass, I wonder if the inhabitants would be US citizens or non-citizen nationals, like the population of American Samoa.

Re: Greenland Crisis

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Post by ianburrell »

t1234s wrote: post #17
pengaru wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are Greenlanders paid by Denmark to live there in order to keep some sort of minimum population? Where were you educated?

It's a fair question. Greenland appears to be a very harsh place to live. Younger generations may not want to deal with that and go live in Europe.

Since Greenland is part of Denmark, Greenlanders are free to move to Denmark. There are 16k or so, but can't tell how many are Greenlandic or Danish heritage.

Re: Greenland Crisis

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Post by mindslight »

_fs wrote: post #27
fastasucan wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its their home. Why would you think they were?

Its the latest manosphere talking point. Pretty much a repeat of saying all protestors are paid by George Soros and the Clintons.

It seems more like the little-boy-o-sphere. Who over the age of 15 is following these performative preeners who spend all day at the gym? Tough men lift steel, not iron.

Re: Greenland Crisis

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Post by jmclnx »

vee-kay wrote: post #20
jmclnx wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we had sane (or brave) people in congress, he would have been impeached and convicted by now and tossed out of office.

Isn't he already convicted?

By convicted I mean convicted by the Senate. After Congress impeaches the Pres., the Senate needs to have a trial and if they convict the Pres., he is removed from office.

That did not happen in the first term.

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