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Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Not only are Apple's services bad, they've becoming inescapable. It's rumored that they'll add ads to maps as soon as next year.

Music.app is simply an ad for Apple Music, Books.app is like reading in a Barnes and Noble while someone from marketing looks over your shoulder and their TV app features their own shows to an overbearing degree — everything else is becoming more of an afterthought.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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It recently occurred to me that it’s been years since it was possible to find some new and interesting app just by browsing the App Store, like it used to be when iPhone and Android were first introduced. Now I open the store knowing in advance what exactly I’m looking for and take care not to accidentally click on a lookalike.

Same on Android.

Except on Android when you search for something and you get the big "match found" with "install" button, it's an ad and the real result is hidden like a search result.

This practice ought to be illegal. These are trademarks, and monopolies are injecting themselves as market makers in a bidding war they created.

This isn't enshittification. This is Roman Empire collapse. It doesn't work anymore.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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More and more evidence that the a-holes with spreadsheets are taking over at Apple and they’re completely devoid of any ideas on the software side. I heard someone randomly say that they should replace Tim Cook with Scott Forstall. I chuckled at the idea but this might be a great idea. Apple is having its Ballmer moment. Google did too before AI lit the fire under their feet. Who is going to be Apple’s next Nadella?…

I heard someone randomly say that they should replace Tim Cook with Scott Forstall. I chuckled at the idea but this might be a great idea.

Fadell might also be a good choice. Either way it should be someone currently outside Apple. The company needs an external eye to review its processes and cruft that built up under Cook (nothing negative against the guy, but what worked 5-10 years ago won’t necessarily work 5-10 years down the road).

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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This is the Apple I've always worried would emerge.

It's been like this for a while, the top results for a lot of known apps are scam impersonators.

So much for the so called "safety" of the appstore.

In fact, they had so many ChatGPT fake apps showing as top results that they had to do something as users couldn't find the real one and it reached the news.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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It recently occurred to me that it’s been years since it was possible to find some new and interesting app just by browsing the App Store, like it used to be when iPhone and Android were first introduced. Now I open the store knowing in advance what exactly I’m looking for and take care not to accidentally click on a lookalike.

Discovery is social

If you’re optimizing for searchers (SEO) you’ve been out of the loop for a decade or catering almost exclusively to the elderly

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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This is what basically everyone else has done over the past decade. Google used to put a different background behind ads in its search ( https://www.fsedigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Google... ). It made it really easy to tell what was an ad and skip over it quickly. Now it's a lot harder to quickly notice what's an ad and what isn't. Sites used to have banner ads. Now they show posts that look exactly like t…

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Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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post #8

More and more evidence that the a-holes with spreadsheets are taking over at Apple and they’re completely devoid of any ideas on the software side. I heard someone randomly say that they should replace Tim Cook with Scott Forstall. I chuckled at the idea but this might be a great idea. Apple is having its Ballmer moment. Google did too before AI lit the fire under their feet. Who is going to be Apple’s next Nadella?…

Can we use "ensheetification" to describe this phenomeon? (sure I'm not the first to use this word)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/offline-with-jon-favre...

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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post #42

It recently occurred to me that it’s been years since it was possible to find some new and interesting app just by browsing the App Store, like it used to be when iPhone and Android were first introduced. Now I open the store knowing in advance what exactly I’m looking for and take care not to accidentally click on a lookalike.

Same on Android. Except on Android when you search for something and you get the big "match found" with "install" button, it's an ad and the real result is hidden like a search result. This practice ought to be illegal. These are trademarks, and monopolies are injecting themselves as market makers in a bidding war they created. This isn't enshittification. This is Roman Empire collapse. It doesn't work anymore.

At least in Android you can use F-Droid which is Play Store for open-source apps.

I installed a regex powered notification blocker yesterday. Works as a charm.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What has Nadella done for Windows users? It appears to me that Windows is becoming every bit as enshittified as macOS, if not more so. And isn't Microsoft experimenting with advertisements in Windows?

How is MacOS as enshittified as Windows? It doesn't have ads, doesn't push AI on you, their online services are trivial to ignore once and never think about again, etc. I haven't tried Tahoe, and sure, its new glass UI is shit, but merely incompetent UI design is not "enshittification" and is not in any way equivalent to what Microsoft does in Windows.

macOS absolutely, definitely, 100% has ads.

Buy a new Apple Watch and notice that the settings app with have a [1] badge trying to upsell you to buy AppleCare+. They obscure dismissing these by clicking the "Add AppleCare Coverage" button and then having a button that says actually no.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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It recently occurred to me that it’s been years since it was possible to find some new and interesting app just by browsing the App Store, like it used to be when iPhone and Android were first introduced. Now I open the store knowing in advance what exactly I’m looking for and take care not to accidentally click on a lookalike.

I still do this but with F-Droid (or one of the nice frontends like Droidify).

Will some new player come and give us some golden years of VC handouts and pre-enshittification decency? I hope so, but the barriers to entry are mighty.

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