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Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by karmakurtisaani »

closewith wrote: post #133
karmakurtisaani wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. They don't need to maintain, debug and extend those libraries.

Well, what if one becomes unmaintained or has issues that only affect your project. Why is that uncontrolled code different to generated code? Is it specifically that it's generated? This isn't a trick question, BTW. It's a genuine attempt to get to the rationale behind your (and the GP's) stance on this. In particular, the GP said: > Or to phrase it more succinctly: if you are in camp 2 but don't have the passion of…

> Well, what if one becomes unmaintained or has issues that only affect your project.

This happens, but very rarely compared to changes in your own code base. If a library breaks, you can usually find an alternative, but even in that case you need to know how to modify your own code.

The difference with generated code is that you are tasked to maintain the generated code.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by SamPatt »

voidUpdate wrote: post #134
j1436go wrote: post #56

Happy for everyone who enjoys it. For me it's the opposite: AI everywhere sucks the joy out of it and I'm seriously starting to consider a career shift after roughly 10 years of writing code for a living.

I'm starting to think that people don't want to be programmers anymore, they want to be managers who delegate their work to someone or something else, and then come back, critique the work, and do another loop

Well yeah! This is objectively a great process for getting a lot of work done.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by falloutx »

drw85 wrote: post #80
cube00 wrote: post #75

Made with care for accuracy. I'm not sure how you can claim this on the footer of every page when you're vibe coding these calculators.

Because it's better for marketing. Doesn't matter if it's true.

what marketing? this must have been done 1000 times just in last month. There is nothing new here. At best its for personal use.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by leothetechguy »

drivebyhooting wrote: post #125
leothetechguy wrote: post #100

I've lost the joy in programming, the only thing I'm good at, I now make horrible music, but at least I don't exist as the means to an end that I don't control.

I hear AI is better at music and poetry too. Go forth and prompt.

No Offense taken, but what's the point in using AI for anything unless you don't want to do it? I want live my life not consume information, is that really so bad?

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by falloutx »

drivebyhooting wrote: post #125
leothetechguy wrote: post #100

I've lost the joy in programming, the only thing I'm good at, I now make horrible music, but at least I don't exist as the means to an end that I don't control.

I hear AI is better at music and poetry too. Go forth and prompt.

Let the guy makes his music, why do we have to put this shit AI stuff in everything. Had to delete spotify for this bs.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by SamPatt »

latexr wrote: post #109
solumunus wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There seems to be two camps of people: those who love the coding and those who love delivering value/solutions. I am in the latter camp. The happy consumer and the polished product is what gives me satisfaction, the code is just really a vehicle from A to B. It’s a shame for anyone in the first camp who wants a career.

> those who love delivering value/solutions. This is such marketing speak. The words mean nothing, they’re just a vague amalgamation of feelings. “Vibes”, if you will. If you “love delivering value and solutions”, go donate and volunteer at a food bank, there’s no need for code at any point. > The happy consumer and the polished product More marketing speak. If you are using LLMs to write your code, by definition you…

What term would you use? You can't say "a finished product" because it may never be finished, but something that other people find valuable seems like a good definition.

I get the argument. Sometimes I really enjoyed the actual act of finally figuring out a way to solve a problem in code, but most of the time it was a means to an end, and I'm achieving that end far more often now via AI tooling.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by falloutx »

dang wrote: post #24
bigDinosaur wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Please don't be hostile to newcomers. That's a way to destroy this place. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

OP could be a bot/agent whatever. some signs point to it. It could be a funny experiment they are running on HN.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by Klonoar »

veunes wrote: post #97
j1436go wrote: post #56

Happy for everyone who enjoys it. For me it's the opposite: AI everywhere sucks the joy out of it and I'm seriously starting to consider a career shift after roughly 10 years of writing code for a living.

I feel you. There's a massive difference between crafting and assembling. AI turns us from artisans carving a detail into assembly line operators. If your joy came from solving algorithmic puzzles and optimizing loops, then yes, AI kills that It might be worth looking into low-level dev (embedded, kernel, drivers) or complex R&D. Vibe coding doesn't work there yet, and the cost of error is too high for hallucinations…

Vibe coding will eventually come for that.

The cost of hallucinations though - you potentially have a stronger point there. It wouldn’t surprise me if that fails to sway some decision makers but it doesn’t give the average dev a bit more ground to work with.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by closewith »

karmakurtisaani wrote: post #151
closewith wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, what if one becomes unmaintained or has issues that only affect your project. Why is that uncontrolled code different to generated code? Is it specifically that it's generated? This isn't a trick question, BTW. It's a genuine attempt to get to the rationale behind your (and the GP's) stance on this. In particular, the GP said: > Or to phrase it more succinctly: if you are in camp 2 but don't have the passion of…

> Well, what if one becomes unmaintained or has issues that only affect your project. This happens, but very rarely compared to changes in your own code base. If a library breaks, you can usually find an alternative, but even in that case you need to know how to modify your own code. The difference with generated code is that you are tasked to maintain the generated code.

> This happens, but very rarely compared to changes in your own code base.

I don't think this is true, but say we accept it.

> The difference with generated code is that you are tasked to maintain the generated code.

Is this a task that LLMs are incapable of performing?

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by ZpJuUuNaQ5 »

j1436go wrote: post #56

Happy for everyone who enjoys it. For me it's the opposite: AI everywhere sucks the joy out of it and I'm seriously starting to consider a career shift after roughly 10 years of writing code for a living.

I feel the same way. LLMs automate aspects that I enjoy and amplify those that I hate.
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