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Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by karmakurtisaani »

closewith wrote: post #93
exceptione wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree with those 2 camps. The latter camp is all cheered up which is nice, but they should be asking the question if their solution is valuable enough to be maintained. If so, you should make all generated code your code, exactly in the form it needs to be according to your deep expertise . If not, congratulations, you have invented throw-away code. Code of conduct: don't throw this code at people from the former cam…

> If so, you should make all generated code your code, exactly in the form it needs to be according to your deep expertise. Is this also true of all third party code used by their solution? Should they make all libraries and APIs they use their own in exactly in the form it needs to be according to their deep expertise? If not, why not? If so, does this extend to the rest of the stack? Interpreters, OSes, drivers? If…

No. They don't need to maintain, debug and extend those libraries.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by 000ooo000 »

solumunus wrote: post #59
j1436go wrote: post #56

Happy for everyone who enjoys it. For me it's the opposite: AI everywhere sucks the joy out of it and I'm seriously starting to consider a career shift after roughly 10 years of writing code for a living.

There seems to be two camps of people: those who love the coding and those who love delivering value/solutions. I am in the latter camp. The happy consumer and the polished product is what gives me satisfaction, the code is just really a vehicle from A to B. It’s a shame for anyone in the first camp who wants a career.

This false dichotomy comes up from time to time, that you either like dicking around with code in your basement or you like being a big boy with your business pants on delivering the world's 8000th online PDF tools site. It's tired. Please let it die.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by veunes »

anon_anon12 wrote: post #46

Well in my opinion there's nothing wrong with vibe-coding. You can completely use it to make your passion projects. I draw the line when people try to sell their vibe-coded project as something huge, putting people at the risk of potential security breaches while also taking money out of them. Every other day I see ads of companies saying "use our AI and become a millionaire", this kind of marketing from agentic IDEs…

Fair, but the threat model matters here. For a static mortgage calculator, the data leak risk is zero (if it's client-side). The risk here is different - logical. If the AI botches the formula and someone makes a financial decision based on that - that's the problem. For "serious" projects vibe coding must stop where testing and code audits begin

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by olig15 »

dang wrote: post #24
bigDinosaur wrote: post #22

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Please don't be hostile to newcomers. That's a way to destroy this place. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

These posts will destroy this place. Post your AI written tools if you like - fine, but using an LLM to reply to comments is just insulting, and will make this place a wasteland of LLM. I wouldn’t post this if I didn’t care about the usual good quality of the discussions on this site.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by stavros »

keyle wrote: post #90
vim-guru wrote: post #71

I'm at the opposite end. I feel AI is sucking all the joy out of the profession. Might pivot away and perhaps live a simpler life. Only problem is that I really need the paycheck :(

Hear hear. It too shall pass. They'll get tired, they'll grind the same apps 500 times and leave. Just like SEO experts, marketing experts, trade bots and crypto experts; the vibe coders will weed out.

The vibe coders will weed out, but programming with AI is never going away.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by tacone »

Thank you for the beautiful story. I work as a developer and have experienced the same in my personal projects, linux setup and - in general - all the collaterals.

AI is eroding the entry barrier, the cognitive overload, and the hyper-specialization of software development. Once you step away from a black-and-white perspective, what remains is: tools, tools, tools. Feels great to me.

Re: Show HN: I quit coding years ago. AI brought me back

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Post by matwood »

latexr wrote: post #109
solumunus wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There seems to be two camps of people: those who love the coding and those who love delivering value/solutions. I am in the latter camp. The happy consumer and the polished product is what gives me satisfaction, the code is just really a vehicle from A to B. It’s a shame for anyone in the first camp who wants a career.

> those who love delivering value/solutions. This is such marketing speak. The words mean nothing, they’re just a vague amalgamation of feelings. “Vibes”, if you will. If you “love delivering value and solutions”, go donate and volunteer at a food bank, there’s no need for code at any point. > The happy consumer and the polished product More marketing speak. If you are using LLMs to write your code, by definition you…

It’s not marketing speak, but it’s rarely 100 percent one or the other.

> More marketing speak. If you are using LLMs to write your code, by definition your product isn’t “polished”.

This doesn’t make any sense. Polished to who? The end user? You can absolutely use AI to polish the user experience. Whether coding by hand or AI the most important aspect of polish is having someone who cares.

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