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Re: Show HN: Pdfwithlove – PDF tools that run 100% locally (no uploads, no back end)

#51
Me and my buddy run a small indie dev studio, and a while back we got frustrated with how most PDF scanner apps feel — clunky UX, subscriptions everywhere, ads, and in some cases your documents get uploaded who-knows-where (for example, incidents reported leaks by TechRadar and Fox News).

So we built our own PDF scanner & editor — lightweight, privacy-first, and (hopefully) not annoying to use. No ads, no subscriptions. Most features are free — a couple of advanced tools require a one-time unlock. All core features run 100% offline with on-device processing.

The main features are built for everyday workflows:

Scan documents — auto edge detect, live corner adjust, batch multi-page Fill and sign forms — reusable signatures, flatten for secure sharing OCR text recognition — preserves layout, searchable PDFs or clean text export (supports 18 languages, e.g., English, Spanish, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, etc.) Edit OCR-detected text — adjust or fix recognised text Page tools — reorder, rotate, duplicate, delete, extract pages Annotations and highlights — comments, text notes, custom watermarks Folder organization — custom folders, drag-and-drop move/rename Everything runs locally — no accounts, no tracking, no upload processing. You can download an AI model to your device (one-time download — it stays cached), and then:

- ask questions about a document - summarise sections or chapters - extract key points or data - turn long documents into quick notes - After the model is installed, all Chat PDF processing happens fully offline on your device.

The app is free to download, and most features are free (scanning, OCR, signatures, annotations, editing, etc).

We wanted to keep the essential tools free, and only charge once for a few advanced features.

We also put together a YouTube playlist with short feature walkthroughs.

You can find the app here: https://apps.apple.com/ro/app/pdf-master-scan-edit-sign/id67...

We’d really appreciate feedback — especially on the Chat PDF feature (usefulness, speed, UX, edge cases, things it should do better). If you try it and have suggestions, we’re actively improving the app based on user feedback.

Re: Show HN: Pdfwithlove – PDF tools that run 100% locally (no uploads, no back end)

#52
post #38

I developed an aversion to "with love"-marketing. I've seen too many products come full circle from idealistic "ad-free-forever" "will-never-sell-your-data" "open-source-forever" "customer-first" student-times to selling out everything.

It should be “made for profit, we need to pay mortgage/loan as most of people”… this would be more honest :)

Buy-me-coffee / you can donate / payments in bitcoins accepted / pay as you use / etc.

But I am curious what could work so people wouldn’t be discouraged immediately?

Subscription (monthly/quarterly/annual) is annoying as well…

Adobe has started this wave, I remember it vividly.

Re: Show HN: Pdfwithlove – PDF tools that run 100% locally (no uploads, no back end)

#55
How does it fare with PDFs consisting entirely of images? Any PDF tool was struggling with compressing a passport scan (made with iPhone so might've contributed somehow, knowing Apple and PDFs) I had to cut down in size. Ended up using ImageMagick cause any Ghostscript based tool couldn't get it below 7 MBs from the original 28MB which, although, pretty good, was still too high and I could tell there was still plenty of detail that could be discarded without losing the eligibility of the document. I had to compress it with ImageMagick at the end, cut it down from 28MB to 3MB.

Also does Adobe have some kind of patent/copyright on PDF forms? I don't think I saw any free tools that can edit fillable fields / tables in PDFs. I don't see any mention of forms in the Suite section of your app either. Is it just stupidly difficult / annoying to implement ?

Re: Show HN: Pdfwithlove – PDF tools that run 100% locally (no uploads, no back end)

#57

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Can't you already do that with pdftk and the like? And work LLM, just like ffmpeg you can generally get the right command quiet easily now.

But this is a self contained webapp. There are other tools that suppport similsr functionality

Well, fine if it helps other users. Not sure I’m the expected audience.

Re: Show HN: Pdfwithlove – PDF tools that run 100% locally (no uploads, no back end)

#58
post #48

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How much of this is LLM derived and how much of it is yours?

I don't even care about that. My suggestion to him was earnest. I don't have a problem with LLMs. Just with how people use them. I just don't like "slop". I see the same user-interaction problems every time. I just don't want people to litter their heavily polished immaculately styled products that have so clearly bad user-interaction design. E2e testing and closing the loop on LLMs does seem to help here. Though I r…

It matters to me. Depending on the ratio there is a line between 'LLM assisted' and 'LLM derived'. There are enough samples of open source code around this theme out there that this could be one of either and the goal to commercialize it is a messy one if the provenance of the code isn't clear. It would be great to see this sort of thing litigated so that there is at least some clarity rather than just a moral stance.

Re: Show HN: Pdfwithlove – PDF tools that run 100% locally (no uploads, no back end)

#59

Seems like Clientside PDF editors are the new "hello world" app these days. From the last couple months on Show HN alone: Show HN: PDF Quick – Free PDF tools with 100% client-side processing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46094734 Show HN: A privacy-first, client-side toolbox (PDF, Imgs, Dev) no server uploads https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46018221 Show HN: FileZen – Client-side PDF and Video tools using…

Due to pdf popularity there is a lot of demand for pdf processing tools. And the format is so complex that there are many nontrivial and creative ways to do pdf processing. That's why these "Hello World" projects usually make Top 5 on HN, and one of the upvotes is usually from me.

Re: Show HN: Pdfwithlove – PDF tools that run 100% locally (no uploads, no back end)

#60
post #44

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Half of them also have a very obviously vibecoded front-end that looks exactly the same

They’re created to offer functional outcomes. If they’re doing so in a friendly interface then I’m cool with that

Sure, if they're tested well enough that there are no obvious UX issues (which is usually not the case)

It's just that there's zero effort put into them so they don't really offer anything of value. If you write a todo list-tier app, it would be completely useless to most people, but it's a learning project for you. If you vibecoded a todo list-tier app, it's completely useless to most people including yourself.

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