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The Nobel Prize and the Laureate Are Inseparable

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Re: The Nobel Prize and the Laureate Are Inseparable

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Post by saila »

treetalker wrote: post #86
shubhamjain wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering his approval rating is still in low 40s, and not 0, tells you volumes about the average American mind.

Before leaving the house, I find it helpful to imagine the median intelligence level in my geographic area (local, or country as a whole) and then recall that about half the population has a level below that point.

The issue isn't intelligence per se. It's ignorance (often willful ignorance), dogmatism, media illiteracy, political illiteracy, etc. There are many intelligent (but evil) people in the Trump administration and not every Trump voter is a dunce. Framing them all as stupid isn't useful, because it doesn't help us understand and counteract what's happening.

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Post by timeon »

lvl155 wrote: post #189

We have to do better to protect our government from religious groups. And I mean ALL religious groups. That’s really the root of the political problems right now. Ironic considering that the country was founded by people who fled similar malaise plaguing the Old World. Clearly separation of church and state is not explicit enough in our laws. I am not even sure if this country can survive the next three years and com…

> Ironic considering that the country was founded by people who fled similar malaise plaguing the Old World

I had impression that it was other way around. Basically puritans. I can imagine people in Europe at that time were happy that they left. Unfortunately, as example this Greenland situation, they are back now.

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Post by fencepost »

k1m wrote: post #21

Many in Norway and Sweden distanced themselves from the Nobel Peace Prize at the time it was awarded to Machado because it was obvious it was such a bad decision. Julian Assange even filed a criminal complaint in Sweden last month to try to stop the Swedish Nobel Foundation paying out over $1 million dollars to her, arguing it's going against Alfred Nobel's will, and they have a responsibility to respect his will. He…

I'm just wondering if they'll end up revising the blurb about her on their website to include the words "craven pandering."

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Post by timeon »

lostlogin wrote: post #99
apexalpha wrote: post #68

This institution lost my respect when they handed Obama the price for not being Bush, I guess.

He radically increased drone strikes, so that’s something. But it pales when compared to Kissinger carpet bombing, so you are right to question his award.

At that time it was not only for Kissinger but also for North Vietnamese representative. It just that Lê Đức Thọ (as war was still ongoing) declined it while Kissinger did not.

Not sure why some American representatives (Kissinger and Trump) are so pathetic.

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Post by platybubsy »

k1m wrote: post #121
ajross wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Machado seems fine. There are always going to be controversies around any political figure, and the complaints ahead of the award were... kinda routine, I thought? She was an opposition leader who was denied power won by democratic election, and didn't start an insurrection or whatever. Checks the right boxes. Make the call and move on. Now, sure, she then went on to personally hand over the medal (or statue or whate…

The world's oldest peace organisation, the Swedish Peace and Arbitration Society, distanced itself from the Nobel Peace Prize, writing in October: "...it is becoming increasingly clear that she is a political actor who also gives her support to Trump and Israel, and with an agenda that stands far from peace, disarmament and reconciliation between peoples. Not least, her uncritical positions in favor of Israel, the US…

As a Swede, "Svenska Freds" is not an entirely uncontroversial organization.

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Post by SilverElfin »

It’s clearly a bribe for Machado to get the Venezuelan presidency for herself. And it’s one of many ways in which the Trump family is enriching themselves. News articles have said they’re already worth billions more than a year ago. Unfortunately there is no check and balance against this type of corruption.

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Post by danillonunes »

andreygrehov wrote: post #154
bad_haircut72 wrote: post #3

They can say whatever they want but Usain Bolt gave me his gold medal so now Im the fastest 100m runner in the world

But if Usain Bolt truly believed that you were better than him and indeed gave you the medal, then maybe you really were the fastest runner in the world?

This would only take away credibility from Bolt. Specially for something that has so little subjectivity as "running fast". I this really happened the most likely case is that Bolt joined a cult and got brainwashed to believe the cult leader is faster than him.

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Post by lysace »

platybubsy wrote: post #206
k1m wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world's oldest peace organisation, the Swedish Peace and Arbitration Society, distanced itself from the Nobel Peace Prize, writing in October: "...it is becoming increasingly clear that she is a political actor who also gives her support to Trump and Israel, and with an agenda that stands far from peace, disarmament and reconciliation between peoples. Not least, her uncritical positions in favor of Israel, the US…

As a Swede, "Svenska Freds" is not an entirely uncontroversial organization.

That's an understatment. They have long been aligned with the Soviet Union and later Russia.
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