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Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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"Meteor 0.5.0, available today, allows you to write secure realtime client-server applications in pure JavaScript. It's the only system of its kind in the world." That's an outright lie. cf. http://opalang.org

But aren't Opa applications written in Opa, not pure JavaScript?

Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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post #10

"Meteor 0.5.0, available today, allows you to write secure realtime client-server applications in pure JavaScript. It's the only system of its kind in the world." That's an outright lie. cf. http://opalang.org

I also have doubts about the effectiveness of their security, so I'd like to challenge that part of the statement too.

Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How in particular are they blocked by Mongo license? It's AGPL but it only applies to changes made to the database source code itself. It doesn't impose any requirements on your application if you are just talking to Mongo over the wire.

It is not unheard of for businesses in both the public and private sector to not allow AGPL code or use of applications released under this license. For example, I worked at a public library for years, and the policy was no AGPL, even if we had no intention of touching the source. Same for a local university. [Edit to add anecdote]

I know a few large scale corporations that license Mongo from 10gen including their commercial support. I really don't see any issue here.

http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/MongoDB+Commercial+Servi...

Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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post #10

"Meteor 0.5.0, available today, allows you to write secure realtime client-server applications in pure JavaScript. It's the only system of its kind in the world." That's an outright lie. cf. http://opalang.org

From the linked page:

  client function client_function(x, y) { ... }
This seems at least slightly different from "pure javascript". There are more examples on the page, particularly the neat sugar for database stuff.

I don't think it's accurate to say that this is an outright lie.

Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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post #10

"Meteor 0.5.0, available today, allows you to write secure realtime client-server applications in pure JavaScript. It's the only system of its kind in the world." That's an outright lie. cf. http://opalang.org

Just curious, as I don't know enough about the two, what makes Opa similar enough to Meteor that the claim "[Meteor is] the only system of its kind in the world" is an outright lie?

Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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post #10

"Meteor 0.5.0, available today, allows you to write secure realtime client-server applications in pure JavaScript. It's the only system of its kind in the world." That's an outright lie. cf. http://opalang.org

There is Derby, http://derbyjs.com

Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

#18
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not unheard of for businesses in both the public and private sector to not allow AGPL code or use of applications released under this license. For example, I worked at a public library for years, and the policy was no AGPL, even if we had no intention of touching the source. Same for a local university. [Edit to add anecdote]

I know a few large scale corporations that license Mongo from 10gen including their commercial support. I really don't see any issue here. http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/MongoDB+Commercial+Servi...

Not all people trying to use meteor have the money for commercial licensing / support.

Re: Meteor releases authentication, accounts system, and new screencast

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post #10

"Meteor 0.5.0, available today, allows you to write secure realtime client-server applications in pure JavaScript. It's the only system of its kind in the world." That's an outright lie. cf. http://opalang.org

From the linked page: client function client_function(x, y) { ... } This seems at least slightly different from "pure javascript". There are more examples on the page, particularly the neat sugar for database stuff. I don't think it's accurate to say that this is an outright lie.

Opa generates pure JS code, even though it's indeed a variant of JavaScript with some added features (the ones you mention) and some removed. But then, there's also Derby and probably others.
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