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Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

#391
Astro is my favorite framework for static sites. It's hard to describe but it just "makes sense". You don't need complex build setups and you can get the best of all worlds with great SSG capabilities + can easily express things with React when needed for example.

I wish there was another path to monetization besides joining a larger company but I'm happy that the team will get to continue building out an amazing framework!

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

#393
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I don't understand how Cloudflare's bottom line benefits: Some here say they gain Astro users, that Cloudflare will become part of the default deployment. But given Cloudflare's current scale, how much are Astro's users worth? Is it even worth the distraction for Cloudflare? Companies lose energy to lots of small, low-value operations. Most acquisitions begin with announcments that nothing will change, in order to re…

It's very powerful to have ownership over a framework that many developers are familiar and like!

It might not be clear just yet what the path to monetization looks like but an easy example would be deeper integrations with the rest of the Cloudflare ecosystem (for example allowing R2 to be easily along with something like duckdb to live in a world of truly local analytics or something like that).

It seems like these great open source frameworks need to monetize by building a platform around the product but these days it's hyper competitive (ex. Vercel, Cloudflare) and it's hard to get started without an incredible differentiator. So, while monetizing independently as a company might be difficult, Astro can provide a lot of value to the rest of the Cloudflare ecosystem.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

#394

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Vercel does not make Next.js hard to deploy elsewhere. Next.js runs fine on serverful platforms like Railway, Render, and Heroku. I have run a production Next.js SaaS on Railway for years with no issues. What Vercel really did was make Next.js work well in serverless environments, which involves a lot of custom infrastructure [0]. Cloudflare wanted that same behavior on CF Workers, but Vercel never open-sourced how t…

So it is vendor locked by Vercel. That's why there is OpenNext - https://opennext.js.org/

How is it vendor locked?

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

#395

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The "meltdown" where he refused to jump to the whims of Italy's football cartel and block whatever addresses they wanted without accountability or review? More meltdowns, please.

A meltdown is a meltdown. Cloudflare is bound to respect the laws of the countries it operates, and if he disagrees with the process, understandable, that was not the way to express it.

You get what you pay for with free PR commentary.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

#396
post #330

I’ve used Astro on Cloudflare for a few years for my personal website (username.com). They’ve both been absolutely fantastic, I can’t say enough good things about both of them. My website has all 100s on PageSpeed/Lighthouse, and that’s because of the performance focus of both Astro and Cloudflare. No credit to me at all. It was mainly because Astro prioritised shipping 0 JS unless it was absolutely necessary and Clo…

Out of curiosity, how do you become ‘exceedingly good’ at serving static HTML? By all accounts, they’ve centralised the delivery of this static HTML at several layers of the network stack, and you’re not getting static HTML anymore because some other part of the business fucked it up. The World Wide Web was serving static HTML for decades before Cloudflare came along. Open an FTP client, drag and drop, and boom - new…

If everything is static, they'll cache it in a DC close to you. That's better than what we had before.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

#398

Crossing fingers (but not holding breath) this doesn't lead to vendor lock-in or otherwise wreck Astro.

Cloudflare doesn't need to vendor lock astro like vercel needed to vendor lock next. They have a massive amount of other things to sell.

I know. Still, not holding breath.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

#399
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Eleventy, of course :-) But why are you looking for alternatives already?

Dropped eleventy recently. Disliked the templating solutions, the messy documentation, the loss in momentum, and liked a lot of the stuff (especially the tooling and principles) in astro. Also strongly disliked how political eleventy got. I just wanted a website, not a an internal debate about what I am potentially being absorbed into. I can vote, and spend money on donations, I don't need to enact change through my…

What are you referring to re: it getting political?

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

#400

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So it is vendor locked by Vercel. That's why there is OpenNext - https://opennext.js.org/

How is it vendor locked?

Recent features are more dependent on Vercel and it's OpenNext that makes it platform independent with adapters.
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