The US is a complete mess and completely unreliable as a defense and business partner. Trump is driving Europe towards China. Even though China supports Russia against Ukraine, China seems much more dependable to do fair business with.
Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland
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Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland
#142This is great news, though a higher percentage would be welcome. The sooner Europe rips off the bandaid, the better.
Europe waking up would even be good for the US long term. The US has coasted on success and grown fat on lack of competition.
"Things are going to be so much better when we needlessly make them shittier."
WTF Americans. We will do anything to just be chill with this crap. I don't know about you, but in school when I was lazy and waited for the last minute and did my work purely out of pressure I did not, in fact, do better work, and got worse outcomes (a worse grade than I normally got).
Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
> As a result, oligarchs like (eg.) Arnault (LVMH) would metaphorically slap Macron like they did on multiple occasions [0][1], and threaten to switch to supporting the RN. If they made Macron in 2017 [2], they can unmake him in 2026 [3]. I don't think americans quite understand how much the population has shifted from being pro-USA to anti-USA in the space of a year, as the orange cretin has been throwing his wrecki…
> some billionaire who makes fancy handbags saying he's going to support a different political party will have zero impact on election results Arnault already has. He's the reason Élisabeth Borne is no longer the PM [0] and why the billionaire tax failed [1]. And his rival Bolloré is the reason why the RN is at the cusp of power [2] > we don't have the cancer that is fox news Instead you have Vivendi and Canal+ who a…
> He already has. He's the reason Elisabeth Borne is no longer the PM [0]. And his rival Bolloré is the reason why the RN is at the cusp of power [1]
all before the US went completely off the rails
even the AfD are now distancing themselves from the US regime
Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fox News happened.
Maybe. I feel like I watched live on 4chan as Trump was presented as a joke and then true believers started posting as well. Maybe 4chan was documenting the phenomenon but it always felt like it willed it into existence like it did q-anon.
My similar take is that the edgy 4 Chan users were just kids who grew up in Fox viewing households.
They willed into existence the propaganda that had been bathing them since birth.
Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland
#145What's next? Will he stamp on the ground like a five year old? I mean, there's this treaty between the US and Denmark that they can build military bases etc. "The U.S. has such a free hand in Greenland that it can pretty much do what it wants," said Mikkel Runge Olesen, a researcher at the Danish Institute for International Studies in Copenhagen. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/07/world/europe/trump-greenl... So what…
The US stations less people in Greenland than we did during the Cold War.
Security is not an actual concern (or we would, you know, station people there to provide security). Trump wants to be remembered, and adding a bunch of land is traditionally the way people he admires (like Putin) try to do that. It's all ego.
Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland
#146I wish Europe would just push back. More than what they are currently. There is so much potential there, but somehow the EU all look at the US as some form of idealogical father figure. Excuse the hyperbolic-talk.
The problem is NATO, a lot of the EU is reluctant to push back because at the end of the day the US guarantees that Russia cannot pursue the type of landgrab it is currently trying to do in Ukraine against other states. The risk that the US runs into when trying to take Greenland is that this argument loses weight instantly, so the expectation is that the EU will be much more willing to use its anti coercion tools if…
".. because at the end of the day the US guarantees that Russia cannot pursue the type of landgrab it is currently trying to do in Ukraine against other states"
I am sorry to say that we (Europeans) increasingly do not believe that the US would help us.
Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Europe waking up would even be good for the US long term. The US has coasted on success and grown fat on lack of competition.
"Things are going to be so much better when we needlessly make them shittier." WTF Americans. We will do anything to just be chill with this crap. I don't know about you, but in school when I was lazy and waited for the last minute and did my work purely out of pressure I did not, in fact, do better work, and got worse outcomes (a worse grade than I normally got).
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Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Europe cant afford to have enemies on both sides. It will align with the US reluctantly because even a bat shit crazy US is better than Russia. China plays it too close to the chest to be a friend.
I don’t buy this at all. Russia is a relatively small economy with a tiny fraction of the EU population. The US is not going to launch a shooting war with Europe. Europe is not going to back down here. This Greenland thing is deeply unpopular in the US. It’s only a conflict because of one senile old man who will be dead soon.
It's not just 1 old man. Most of the wars Trump does is just a logical continuation of the military industrial complex strategy, he just doesn't hide it at all.
Venezuela was already a target, Panama was already conquered, and I'm sure Greenland was in plans already.
Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland
#149What a time to be (still) alive. When we look back in a few years and ask the question: who actually got to pay for the Epstein crimes and coverups, we come to the surprising answer it is the Greenlandes and other innocent societies that got ripped apart by this maniac and his supporters.
Also the entire economy. Stocks are at an all time high on both sides of the Atlantic but the real world economy is struggling.
Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland
#150Can this be revoked after the midterms? In that case I guess the EU can wait it out.
The tariffs are claimed to be a national security emergency and without the approval or Congress, therefore the composition of Congress won't matter unless the Supreme court judges otherwise.