> Our goal continues to be building the best LLM engineering platform Interesting headline for a checks notes time series database company.
But this is correct? The article that you read is from Langfuse POV, not Clickhouse.
ClickHouse acquires Langfuse
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Re: ClickHouse acquires Langfuse
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your notes aren't very good. They're not a time series database company, they're a columnar database company. But yeah the LLM bit is weird, database companies _always_ feel like charlatans when it comes to LLMs.
Willing to bet most columnar stores are used for time series.
I suspect most use of columnar databases is OLAP, which is different from what people usually mean when they say time series data.
Re: ClickHouse acquires Langfuse
#53SaaS company pivots to AI. Gets funding rebranded as AI company. Buys a company that actually knows it.
It’s still early but I question how much of these SaaS companies will continue. I’d rather connect Claude or whatever to do my task than have to learn a new platform let alone login to it.
Re: ClickHouse acquires Langfuse
#54Since clickhouse is headquartered in the US that means the langfuse cloud is no longer GDPR compliant.
Re: ClickHouse acquires Langfuse
#55SaaS company pivots to AI. Gets funding rebranded as AI company. Buys a company that actually knows it. It’s still early but I question how much of these SaaS companies will continue. I’d rather connect Claude or whatever to do my task than have to learn a new platform let alone login to it.
I don’t think that is a an accurate depiction of ClickHouse. I don’t think they’re pivoting from their main data warehousing product at all. Probably making their cloud offering more competitive with other providers.
Re: ClickHouse acquires Langfuse
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Without the purchase price, it is unclear whether this deserves congratulations or condolences. Two years in the LLM race will have definitely depleted their seed raise of $4m from 2023, and with no news of additional funds raised it's more than likely this was a fire sale.
It was not a fire sale I'm pretty sure. Langfuse has been consistently growing, they publish some stats about sdk usage etc so you can look that up. They also say in the announcement that they had a term sheet for a good series a. I think the team just took the chance to exit early before the llm hype crashes down. There is also a question of how big this market really is they mostly do observability for chatbots but…
I don’t know about that. I looked at them a couple of months back for prompt management and they were pretty behind in terms of features. Went with PromptLayer
Re: ClickHouse acquires Langfuse
#57I'm surprised it's not mentioned yet, but this seems to compliment last year's acquisition of observability tool HyperDX[1] (part of ClickStack[2]) quite well. I'm in the market for a new o11y platform and it seems all vendors are working to add LLM observability one way or the other, if they haven't added it already.
1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44194082 2: https://clickhouse.com/use-cases/observability
Re: ClickHouse acquires Langfuse
#58This is part of a bigger consolidation trend, AI hype or not: which general-purpose data vendor gets to store and query all of your observability and business data?
Snowflake acquired Observe last week, AWS made it easy in December to put logs from Cloudwatch in their managed iceberg catalog, and Azure is doing a bunch of interesting stuff with Fabric.
The line between your data lake/analytics vendor and observability vendor is getting blurry.
Re: ClickHouse acquires Langfuse
#59I'm surprised it's not mentioned yet, but this seems to compliment last year's acquisition of observability tool HyperDX[1] (part of ClickStack[2]) quite well. I'm in the market for a new o11y platform and it seems all vendors are working to add LLM observability one way or the other, if they haven't added it already. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44194082 2: https://clickhouse.com/use-cases/observability
What are you using now and what are you looking for in your new platform?
Re: ClickHouse acquires Langfuse
#60As a big Clickhouse fan, agent evals are where their product really shines. They're buying into market segment where their product is succeeding so they can vertically integrate and tighten up the feedback loop.
Are you talking about this sort of thing? https://clickhouse.com/blog/tracing-openai-agents-clickstack