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Post by orwin »

stogot wrote: post #352
treyd wrote: post #349

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Intellectual property as it exists and is used today overwhelmingly is used to stifle competition and lock down monopolies. It's used to project power internationally by deputizing foreign countries to protect American business interests. It's a far cry from how it's popularly presented as a way for the "little guy" to protect their inventions.

I see you’ve never invented anything that you’ve risked having stolen

It's not stolen, you don't loose it if someone copy it. It's infringed. And personnally, as long as i am credited in the author file? I'm good.

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Post by mywittyname »

mekdoonggi wrote: post #276
echelon wrote: post #230

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I'm really into geopolitics, and it's clear to see what's happening from the US side. America still wants to play hegemon, but since Bretton Woods 2.0 didn't happen, they're going to lock up the entire North and South American continents from Chinese and Russian influence. And it'll be fierce. The next salvo is going to be US statehood for Alberta and Saskatchewan. There is already partisan support within those provi…

I would love to hear how you think Trump will manage to get Alberta and Saskatchewan to become US states within this century.

Quebec already has laws on the book that make them de jure separate from Canada by claiming the Provincial governments have powers that supersede Ottawa's authority [0]. Nobody really talks about it beyond a, "lol no". It's the foundation of a crisis.

So Canada is already fractured. And there's a strong chance Québécois offer support of Alberta and Sas succession. Perhaps there will be some reciprocity and all three provinces leave Canada at the same time.

Which leaves western Canada in a bit of a pickle.

[0] https://ca.news.yahoo.com/first-reading-quebec-little-notice...

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Post by gpm »

atonse wrote: post #444
gpm wrote: post #441

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We're generally against warmongering. We're definitely against invading another country with the purpose being to steal it's resources, and that's what explicitly what the attack was. We're weary of the military of our neighbor violating their own constitution, and their own laws, to invade another country without authorization from the appropriate civilian authorities because that sort of lawlessness doesn't tend to…

Thanks for taking the time to provide details. While I'm not sure what percent of Canada you represent with "we" - it's good to hear this. Canada's been our closest friend for the longest time. I hope we can mend things over time.

Obviously I can only actually speak for myself and there's no opinion that all 40 million of us agrees with, but I'm representing views here that I think a significant majority of Canadians hold. Or for some of the more in the weeds bits, a significant majority of politically aware Canadians hold. Not views I feel are particularly controversial.

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Post by mywittyname »

zeropoint46 wrote: post #371
mywittyname wrote: post #344

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The two-party system is fine. We have to be honest about the fact that parliamentary systems can give massive power to a tiny fraction of the population when that small party becomes the deciding vote. The problems with the USA political system are: electoral college, senate being 2 votes per state, and the supreme court being 7 people for life. But nothing can be done about the last two now. Especially now that the…

I think it's 9 justices

Yes, my bad.

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Post by rootusrootus »

taneliv wrote: post #363
standardUser wrote: post #277

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Yes, following an almost cookie-cutter-like pattern of emerging economies protecting and supporting their auto industries.

I feel like that is not specific to emerging economies.

Given their war manufacturing ability, I expect any govt to support the industry to some extent. I think that China is additionally doing it to strategically weaken their rivals. Both for economic as well as military objectives.

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Post by mywittyname »

mikkupikku wrote: post #419
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #409

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Our official delegation left the Greenland delegation IN TEARS, and we pronounced 'it's happening' afterwards. These aren't shit posters on Twitter, these are our officials and our President ACTIVELY working to take over Greenland.

If Greenland was happening, what's taking them so long? The military could take it without a fight tonight, or last month for that matter. They want it, but can't take it because it would be too shocking for the public (aka violating narrative continuity.) If they can prepare the public to accept it then it might happen, but most magas I talk to treat it like a joke, trolling the Europeans to make them invest in defe…

> If Greenland was happening, what's taking them so long?

Other priorities.

Plus, they need to arrange some international support to ensure that enough countries recognize the transition. That takes time to put into place both the carrots (weapons for Middle Easterners) and sticks (tariffs for Europeans).

Once this happens, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Israel, and maybe Egypt, Japan, SK, will recognize the transition as official.

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Post by slavik81 »

echelon wrote: post #230
throw0101d wrote: post #156

A Canadian satire site has the headline "Canada chooses lawful evil over chaotic evil": * https://thebeaverton.com/2026/01/canada-chooses-lawful-evil-... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_%26_Dragon... Edit: A comment in /r/canada: > TBF I would much rather work for Lex Luthor than The Joker if I had to choose one.

I'm really into geopolitics, and it's clear to see what's happening from the US side. America still wants to play hegemon, but since Bretton Woods 2.0 didn't happen, they're going to lock up the entire North and South American continents from Chinese and Russian influence. And it'll be fierce. The next salvo is going to be US statehood for Alberta and Saskatchewan. There is already partisan support within those provi…

> The next salvo is going to be US statehood for Alberta and Saskatchewan. There is already partisan support within those provinces, and Trump is going to offer money to push it.

The polling puts it at 20% support and 80% opposed. This is not going to happen. As a Canadian who was born in Alberta and has lived in Alberta all my life, I will be remaining in Canada.

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Post by ponector »

bluGill wrote: post #107
footy wrote: post #94

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As a Torontonian that last part is honestly what I'm most excited about. Massive American cars simply do not belong in most of our streets in this city, and if this starts the long process of getting them out that's going to be amazing. I've seen Cybertrucks zooming down streets that are about a Cybertruck and a half wide and it's an untenable situation.

Massive trucks are useful for construction. You should get better transit so less people have cars.

How truck is more useful than a van like ford transit?

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Post by orwin »

mywittyname wrote: post #395
mikkupikku wrote: post #317

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It's not bad analysis, I upvoted you, but what you're forgetting is that nothing ever happens. Venezuela was just typical American meddling, Cuba might happen (I'd bet against it) but neither the Canada nor Greenland thing is going to happen because it would be too dramatic for narrative continuity.

> neither the Canada nor Greenland thing is going to happen Greenland is happening, and will be underway soon. It's just a matter of how much international support it will have initially, and how the USA will strong arm support. Canada is on the back burner after the realization that a country with a leader who was the Governor of the national banks of two major countries might know a thing or two about economic warf…

> It's just a matter of how much international support it will have initially, and how the USA will strong arm support.

That's where i think France have dropped the ball with its last presidents. Any pre-2007 president would have already declared Greenland as "EU, thus France sovereign interest" and reiterated French nuclear doctrine since 1964 (One warning shot, then tactical nukes, aiming for the army/supply and not civilian infrastructure). Macron will never do that, because if you say it, you have to follow up.

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Post by lenerdenator »

fritzorino wrote: post #286
lenerdenator wrote: post #214

Money talks, actual values walk. Always. I get that this is seen as a "practical" move north-of-the-border, but understand, this is the kind of move that guys like Trump, Putin, and Xi all require. They want this kind of thing to happen, because it shows the real issue was never one of democratic values and human rights. If Canadians valued that then their PM wouldn't be inking a deal with China in response to what T…

Trump doesn't care about values at all, he cares about money more than anyone else does. I find it laughable you can even talk about values whilst having that main in charge of your country. And so what if he turns around and goes "ha your values are worthless". Trump is a literal paedophile and a literal rapist. Why should we accept being brow beat by such a man? So? We're moving on without you.

> Trump doesn't care about values at all, he cares about money more than anyone else does.

That's exactly what I'm saying. He's going to use this sort of deal as an example to Canadians that when it all comes down to it, they're no better than he is. He's going to say that you're perfectly fine talking trade deals with authoritarians who are literally abducting Chinese nationals on Canadian soil and doing God-knows-what with them [0], so long as the money is right.

[0] https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/rcmp-chinese-police-st...

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