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Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

yabones wrote: post #43
feverzsj wrote: post #16

According to Russian users, Chinese EV works poorly in cold climates. I don't think Canadians prefer EVs anyway.

There are a massive amount of new EVs in Quebec, which isn't exactly tropical. Part of it is subsidies, $2K for new EV, and $600 for charging. The other thing is the crazy scale of hydroelectric production in that province, some of which gets exported as far as Baltimore. So electricity is very available and reasonably cheap in QC. We'll see how BYD's handle the bone chilling Montreal winters... Unless they're an abs…

As an EV driver from Ontario it's amazing crossing over, or even getting close to the border, the EV situation is just so much better.

That said, while hate Tesla the company ... I'll take their chargers over the patchwork of various apps & cards I have to install in order to make use of things there. There's a notable absence of Tesla stations there, but a lot of variety of other things and I had bad luck installing half the apps and it was not fun trying to set that all up while standing in the -20C cold in a gas station parking lot while just trying to get to the ski hill.

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Post by tzs »

bilsbie wrote: post #15

Could an American go up and buy one and drive it back? Any registration or insurance issues?

Others have covered the problems with this. However if you live in certain US cities that are close to Canada there may be a work around.

Actually move to somewhere across the border and live in Canada. As a US citizen living in Canada crossing into the US for visits, even fairly long ones, has little or no hassle and you can bring your Canadian car.

For example if you are in Detroit, move to Windsor, Ontario. Outside of peak congestion times it is 10-20 minutes to get to or from Detroit. That's quick enough that this could work out even if you do almost all of your activities outside of your home in Detroit.

BTW, there are also cities on the south border of the US where this works (with Mexico, not Canada!), but in many of those the cities on the Mexican side have somewhat of a crime problem so you would have to be a lot more cautious in picking a place to live there.

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Post by [deleted] »

stogot wrote: post #352
treyd wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intellectual property as it exists and is used today overwhelmingly is used to stifle competition and lock down monopolies. It's used to project power internationally by deputizing foreign countries to protect American business interests. It's a far cry from how it's popularly presented as a way for the "little guy" to protect their inventions.

I see you’ve never invented anything that you’ve risked having stolen

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Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

feverzsj wrote: post #16

According to Russian users, Chinese EV works poorly in cold climates. I don't think Canadians prefer EVs anyway.

I (Canadian) drive a Polestar 2. Chinese manufactured car by Chinese company Geely (tho with Volvo DNA).

It's the best winter driving car I've ever owned. A set of Michelin X-Ices on it's amazing. I've been driving for 35 years and I've never driven something with better winter handling, including Subaru I used to own, etc.

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Post by atonse »

gpm wrote: post #42
zjsushsb wrote: post #19

I’m assuming this is downstream of trumps move in Venezuela? Canada suffers the most from US access to Venezuelan oil. On top of all the prior rhetoric and moves by his admin. What concerns me is why does the west think China is trustworthy? Why are we all fighting one another? Culture is important. China knows this, and is unequivocally Chinese relative to the Europeans.

While we (Canadians) certainly aren't happy with Trump's attack on Venezuela, Trump's threats against Canada, reneging on deals with Canada, threats against Greenland, and attacks on the US's domestic rule of law probably all carry more weight in this decision than that. Despite the issues that Trump has caused Canada still does more trade with the US, on more favourable terms, than China...

What is Canada's issue with the "attack" on Venezuela (I wrap it in quotes because the actual operation was the capture of Maduro)

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Post by maxglute »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #418
guywithahat wrote: post #387

This feels like a poor long-term play for a short term political win. Canada has a robust automotive supply industry to US auto manufacturers, and this industry could be in long-term risk in an attempt to hurt relations with freer, traditionally more conservative nations. It’s not a shock but it is always disappointing to see major political decisions made for the benefit of the next election cycle.

The message here is that western Canadian agricultural & energy interests are of potential more strategic value than a dying technically backwards auto sector led by three moribund regressive manufacturers who have shown their willingness to show their belly to Trump anyways. As an Ontarian, I'm saddened. But I don't think the Big3 deserve anymore state support. They've pushed it too far. Just earlier this week they…

More that Ontario auto is projected to have no value since Trump has explicitly signaled he wants to kill Canadian auto and reshore to US. If Ontario auto is going, no sense in losing also agriculture especially if oil also going in 5-10 years if VZ ever works to US favor. The only hedge is to save Canadian auto is hoping for some sort PRC JV where Canadian plants keep some jobs and grab some margins, possibly a lot of margins (i.e. no truly cheap EVs) since PRC inputs cheap. Best case scenario is Canada has meaningfully cheaper EVs, but not Chinese cheap, get to hold onto some auto work, have access to worlds largest ag buyer, maybe free up an extra million barrels of oil to export since US will want VZ heavy instead of WCS from Alberta. Although US has many other ways to punish Canada.

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Post by ErrorNoBrain »

throw0101d wrote: post #156

A Canadian satire site has the headline "Canada chooses lawful evil over chaotic evil": * https://thebeaverton.com/2026/01/canada-chooses-lawful-evil-... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_%26_Dragon... Edit: A comment in /r/canada: > TBF I would much rather work for Lex Luthor than The Joker if I had to choose one.

Compared to the current US... china is currently a grade A student who sometimes bullies their the neighbors younger child

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Post by Sabinus »

mywittyname wrote: post #344
teemur wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. I don't know if anyone is interested in anecdotes, but looking from Europe, I will do my best to avoid any kind of US dependency until US has a) overhauled the legal system starting from the Supreme Court and b) gotten rid of the de facto two-party system. (No, one-party system does not count.)

The two-party system is fine. We have to be honest about the fact that parliamentary systems can give massive power to a tiny fraction of the population when that small party becomes the deciding vote. The problems with the USA political system are: electoral college, senate being 2 votes per state, and the supreme court being 7 people for life. But nothing can be done about the last two now. Especially now that the…

Ranked choice and compulsory voting would transform America for the better. But there never seems to be much enthusiasm for the idea.

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Post by wetpaws »

throw0101d wrote: post #398
anvuong wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lawfully? How many IPs have they stolen from universities and companies across the world?

> Lawfully? How many IPs have they stolen from universities and companies across the world? Probably about the same as the US when it was a developing nation. "How the United States Stopped Being a Pirate Nation and Learned to Love International Copyright": > From the time of the first federal copyright law in 1790 until enactment of the International Copyright Act in 1891, U.S. copyright law did not apply to works b…

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

mikkupikku wrote: post #419
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #409

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Our official delegation left the Greenland delegation IN TEARS, and we pronounced 'it's happening' afterwards. These aren't shit posters on Twitter, these are our officials and our President ACTIVELY working to take over Greenland.

If Greenland was happening, what's taking them so long? The military could take it without a fight tonight, or last month for that matter. They want it, but can't take it because it would be too shocking for the public (aka violating narrative continuity.) If they can prepare the public to accept it then it might happen, but most magas I talk to treat it like a joke, trolling the Europeans to make them invest in defe…

It is not trolling when OUR OFFICIAL DELEGATION left Greenland's in tears. This is OFFICIAL POLICY, OFFICIAL DIPLOMACY and has nothing to do with MAGA, memes, jokes.

If I asked you 2 months ago 'do you think Trump will steal tankers of Venezuelan oil using the US military, sell the oil, and deposit the funds in accounts setup offshore in the middle eastern country that gave him a free jumbo jet?' would you have said 'there is no way that will happen'?

I'm sick of the 'it's just Trump being Trump' when no one would treat any other politician that way. No, it is the US President, who sent an official US delegation, which, when it left (after reducing Greenlands official delegation to tears) continued to say 'we are taking Greenland'. Fuck off with 'it's just Trump being Trump'. It is the United States President.

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