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Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by zeropoint46 »

mywittyname wrote: post #344
teemur wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. I don't know if anyone is interested in anecdotes, but looking from Europe, I will do my best to avoid any kind of US dependency until US has a) overhauled the legal system starting from the Supreme Court and b) gotten rid of the de facto two-party system. (No, one-party system does not count.)

The two-party system is fine. We have to be honest about the fact that parliamentary systems can give massive power to a tiny fraction of the population when that small party becomes the deciding vote. The problems with the USA political system are: electoral college, senate being 2 votes per state, and the supreme court being 7 people for life. But nothing can be done about the last two now. Especially now that the…

I think it's 9 justices

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Post by 0xTJ »

Waterluvian wrote: post #200

A few assorted thoughts: - I'm still not over how great it feels to have confidence that Carney has a strong understanding of the economics of these political manouvers. Not only is he not a !@#$ing moron, he's a deeply experience economist more than he's a politician. - Stratification of trading partners is nothing but good. - This feels like safe toe-dip. Both sides have agreed to terms that are temporary, meaning…

I don't love that Carney is relatively conservative-leaning for being Liberal, but I do really appreciate the fact that he's professional, competent, and stable. He speaks like (what I see as) a regular person and he's not there to whip supporters into fervent chanting.

I'm absolutely relieved that Poilievre didn't win the election (or his original seat). Setting aside just how far to the right he is, I've heard him described as an idiot both by another MP and by someone (who is himself pretty conservative) who met him at some social event.

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Post by boringg »

mgh95 wrote: post #355
boringg wrote: post #291

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There is some small amount partisan support but not public support, massive difference. It might cost them the next election. They aren't republican voters - there is sizable difference between the Canadian right and the US right. I think many Americans make this mistake (and Canadians too) - the republican positions on many things aren't that tenable to center of right (Canadian spectrum). Also - There aren't many m…

> Also - There aren't many more things that are more toxic in Canada politics than Trump and Annexation. He single handedly handed the Federal election to the Liberals - it was the Conservatives who were going to win until he but his thumb on the scale. Watching these discussions from the outside are statistics like four in ten (43%) Canadians age 18-34 would vote to be American if citizenship and conversion of asset…

Same poll: 77-87% of Canadians would never vote to part of the USA. Thats a pretty staggeringly high hurdle rate to get a population to acquiesce.

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Post by mathgradthrow »

choppypoofart wrote: post #227
throw0101d wrote: post #156

A Canadian satire site has the headline "Canada chooses lawful evil over chaotic evil": * https://thebeaverton.com/2026/01/canada-chooses-lawful-evil-... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_%26_Dragon... Edit: A comment in /r/canada: > TBF I would much rather work for Lex Luthor than The Joker if I had to choose one.

As an American I'm rooting for everyone else these days. Good for Canada. I hope the EU builds stronger trade with China too and America gets left in the cold to whither and die. Trump, Vance, Miller, Noem, Musk, Bezos all of them just forgotten about and completely irrelevant to the rest of the world.

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Post by kps »

sebastiennight wrote: post #160
thesh4d0w wrote: post #96

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25 years?! Hardly https://www.brokerlink.ca/blog/how-long-do-cars-last-in-cana... > In 2020, the Automotive Industries Association of Canada (AIA Canada) reported the average age of Canadian vehicles was 9.7 years, though many industry experts believe that number is closer to 10.5 years today.

If the average car on the road is 10.5 years old, and you assume a flat demand, it is consistent with the lifespan of all cars being exactly 21 years. (if you look at a random sampling of 100 cars, 5 will be from this year, 5 from 2025, and so on until you've counted the 5 cars from 2005 ; the average age will be 10.5 years) If you assume that there are more cars sold every year (due to demographics: way more humans…

It's poorly worded, but the rest of the article implies that's average lifespan, not average age.

“The average car lifespan now is closer to 322,000 kilometres, which works out to around 10 to 12 years for most drivers.”

“While the average vehicle in Canada may be designed to last around a decade, there are several factors, some of which are within your control and some of which are not, that can impact how long your car lasts.”

My last two cars were scrapped at 13 years due to rust effects.

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Post by rjrjrjrj »

mindslight wrote: post #342
teemur wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. I don't know if anyone is interested in anecdotes, but looking from Europe, I will do my best to avoid any kind of US dependency until US has a) overhauled the legal system starting from the Supreme Court and b) gotten rid of the de facto two-party system. (No, one-party system does not count.)

Is that the extent of your requirements (for now, at least) ? As an American I keep trying to surmise what we're going to need to do to start repairing the damage from this massive self-own. It's kind of hard because we don't know where the bottom will be, but we at least need to start having these discussions on what constructive approaches might even look like - we can't have our milquetoast opposition party phonin…

Electoral college, rampant gerrymandering, and 2 senators/state all big structural problems.

Term and/or age maximums might also help.

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Post by martythemaniak »

echelon wrote: post #230
throw0101d wrote: post #156

A Canadian satire site has the headline "Canada chooses lawful evil over chaotic evil": * https://thebeaverton.com/2026/01/canada-chooses-lawful-evil-... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_%26_Dragon... Edit: A comment in /r/canada: > TBF I would much rather work for Lex Luthor than The Joker if I had to choose one.

I'm really into geopolitics, and it's clear to see what's happening from the US side. America still wants to play hegemon, but since Bretton Woods 2.0 didn't happen, they're going to lock up the entire North and South American continents from Chinese and Russian influence. And it'll be fierce. The next salvo is going to be US statehood for Alberta and Saskatchewan. There is already partisan support within those provi…

Well, I downvoted because I think your views are ill-informed and stupid, not because I think you're advocating for this. You fundamentally don't understand Trump and his ilk - he's petty, vindictive, vain, greedy and a bully. Everything runs on narrative and personal dealings, NOT any sort of rational goals or strategy. Ascribing these things to him is like pretending my cat is scheming about something when it jumps on a window. No bud, they're much simpler creatures.

Venezuela happened because it makes him look good on TV, that's it. There's no grand strategizing, it's a petty, vain person doing shitty things to make himself look great. He believes he is entitled to rule as an absolute monarch and acquiring territory (Greenland, Canada, etc) is just a way for himself to make himself more grand. Sorry, no grand strategy there either. I'll go further and say that part of what makes him so successful is that there's a large contingent of people that can't see him as he is and instead engage in this strategy larp like your various theories.

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Post by boringg »

saati wrote: post #361
boringg wrote: post #151

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Who wants to be a trade partner with the US these days? I honestly ask people who aren't fully indoctrinated or already have ties established? Its a dependency that I have to think almost all countries/businesses are evaluating. How do you do business and set up long term supply chains in a country can't trust that the economic policy of today exists in 3 months, they are actively trying to undermine their currency a…

It's a bit more than a quarter (25.6%) of the whole world's GDP, so pretty much everyone.

Non political leadership in the US is getting rattled. I don't know if you watched everyone freak out about WH targeting of the fed last week.

Rank and file GOP got rattled with that one.

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Post by mywittyname »

echelon wrote: post #230
throw0101d wrote: post #156

A Canadian satire site has the headline "Canada chooses lawful evil over chaotic evil": * https://thebeaverton.com/2026/01/canada-chooses-lawful-evil-... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_%26_Dragon... Edit: A comment in /r/canada: > TBF I would much rather work for Lex Luthor than The Joker if I had to choose one.

I'm really into geopolitics, and it's clear to see what's happening from the US side. America still wants to play hegemon, but since Bretton Woods 2.0 didn't happen, they're going to lock up the entire North and South American continents from Chinese and Russian influence. And it'll be fierce. The next salvo is going to be US statehood for Alberta and Saskatchewan. There is already partisan support within those provi…

I agree with your assessment. But I think the leaders pulling these strings are not fully appreciating the costs of this security.

Controlling all of these foreign lands is pointless if the country collapses then Balkanizes. The past decade has brought so many events that nobody thought could ever happen that we need to be rearrange our beliefs. It's very possible that those of us around in 10 years will see this time period as being part of the Second American Civil war.

The only thing keeping people almost pacified is the economy is not total dogshit yet. But that's tenuous at best.

There's going to be a post-trump power vacuum. It will likely be much more bloody than our current situation.

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Post by pjc50 »

TheScaryOne wrote: post #295
pjc50 wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's basically it. The Chinese government views the rest of the world through Hobbesian self interest, but in the late 20th century financial way. They want your money, but lawfully. The US has turned into something much more vindictive and unpredictable, including threatening to invade Canada.

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You know who else was shipping firearms illegally to countries in North America? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

(Obama administration, although not personally his fault)

We could also discuss the provision of Armalite rifles to terrorist groups in the UK, Iran-Contra (an early accountability failure paving the way for pardon abuse), and so on.

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