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Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by gogusrl »

_ea1k wrote: post #69
feverzsj wrote: post #16

According to Russian users, Chinese EV works poorly in cold climates. I don't think Canadians prefer EVs anyway.

EVs and cold climates are a bit of a mixed bag. On the one hand, if you want to road trip with snowy 30 mph headwinds, the charging times will be meaningfully worse. Not impossible, but definitely noticeable. On the other hand, the traction control is fantastic and they tend to have the best preconditioning features so that you never have to get into a cold car for your commute. For a lot of people, that second parag…

They're also a lot more resilient at extreme temperatures. Your range will be crap, but you can count on it running in -30C or more without problems.

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Post by anvuong »

pjc50 wrote: post #234
throw0101d wrote: post #156

A Canadian satire site has the headline "Canada chooses lawful evil over chaotic evil": * https://thebeaverton.com/2026/01/canada-chooses-lawful-evil-... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_%26_Dragon... Edit: A comment in /r/canada: > TBF I would much rather work for Lex Luthor than The Joker if I had to choose one.

That's basically it. The Chinese government views the rest of the world through Hobbesian self interest, but in the late 20th century financial way. They want your money, but lawfully. The US has turned into something much more vindictive and unpredictable, including threatening to invade Canada.

Lawfully? How many IPs have they stolen from universities and companies across the world?

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Post by epolanski »

adrian_b wrote: post #155
myrmidon wrote: post #29

I wonder if this might even be below reasonable "subsidy-compensation" tariff levels. BYD, for reference, got almost 30% of their 2024 income from the Chinese state (~$1.4b). But this is always difficult to judge because most nations help local industry to some degree, and it can be quite difficult to compare.

While Americans very frequently complain that the Chinese state subsidizes various industries, I am astonished that they do not see any similarity with the fact that I never heard of any really big investment project in USA, e.g. the building of any new big factory or new company headquarters, that was done otherwise than after receiving very substantial tax reductions of various kinds from the local government of th…

And yet virtually all European lawmakers get $ from governments threatening to cut jobs.

Many countries actively lose money for those jobs, Serbia is an example. They go to extreme lengths to underbid competition for stellantis factories and get a net negative impact.

If you can't survive without taxpayers paying the bills, just die ffs.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by Marsymars »

toast0 wrote: post #143
bilsbie wrote: post #15

Could an American go up and buy one and drive it back? Any registration or insurance issues?

Assuming they don't conform to US safety standards (and aren't easily made to conform), your best bet is to aim for this provision: > Nonresidents may import a vehicle duty-free for personal use up to (1) one year if the vehicle is imported in conjunction with the owner's arrival. Vehicles imported under this provision that do not conform to U.S. safety and emission standards must be exported within one year and may…

> Assuming they don't conform to US safety standards (and aren't easily made to conform), your best bet is to aim for this provision:

Canadian and US car safety standards are very closely aligned, other than some pretty minor differences. (e.g. DRL required in Canada, TPMS required in the US, etc.)

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Post by ortusdux »

nrjames wrote: post #231
culi wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> He said there would be an initial cap of 49,000 vehicles on Chinese EV exports to Canada, growing to 70,000 over five years.

I always wonder why people settle on a number like 49,000 when 50,000 is sitting right there, looking you in the face.

Same reason they set prices at $49.95

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Post by epolanski »

PeterStuer wrote: post #219

Wouldn't them creating artificial scarcity be just another way to keep prices at the same level as tarrifs, but with the huge margins going to the private sector instead of the public?

This will likely happen indeed. There will be a huge mark up from dealerships and not enough volume to prompt for pricing competition.

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Post by boringg »

timeon wrote: post #199
boringg wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's only a small subset of Americans who think this way, but they happen to be in power right now.

I would not blame people in US as I do not blame those in Russia or North Korea (or those in my country - which include myself). But unfortunately that is not relevant here.

Im not, I'm explicitly saying its the people in power who are small subset of the population.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by heresie-dabord »

mkozlows wrote: post #41
justonceokay wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a complete sea change. I feel Canada only set tariffs on cars out of some deference to the US auto industry. I don’t want to use slippery slope thinking, but this to me smells like rolling out a Canadian auto market that is not dependent on the US. For the average family, being able to spend significantly less on a car is a big deal.

Keep in mind that the US auto industry is also very much a Canadian one. A lot of Big Three stuff happens across the border in Ontario. But all the policy support that would have let North American automakers build up a competitive position with China is gone, so this is more about just acknowledging reality now.

> the US auto industry is also very much a Canadian one

Trump's message is loud and clear. The Canadian Prime Minister has said, "the past relationship with the US is over."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y41z4351qo

The US President: "US does not need cars made in Canada; free trade deal is irrelevant"

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/we-dont-need-cars-made-in-canada-trump-says-calls-cusma-irrelevant/
US Ambassador: "US does not need Canada":

    https://www.pressreader.com/canada/sentinel-review-woodstock/20260116/281629606665800

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by gpm »

nrjames wrote: post #231
culi wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> He said there would be an initial cap of 49,000 vehicles on Chinese EV exports to Canada, growing to 70,000 over five years.

I always wonder why people settle on a number like 49,000 when 50,000 is sitting right there, looking you in the face.

There are some theories of negotiation that say it's good to pick an overly specific number like that specifically to imply that you've given it thought and aren't willing to change it without getting something in return.
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