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Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by adamiscool8 »

knuppar wrote: post #137
adamiscool8 wrote: post #120

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Except those actions are not secret, nor illegal, nor a threat to any other country’s sovereignty?

If you think those actions are not illegal I'm stopping to reply, this is clearly just ragebait.

Ragebait would be trying to argue that China running secret police and propaganda operations on Canadian soil, against Canadian citizens, is in any way equivalent to a domestic force taking actions primarily against foreign nationals, in a statutorily authorized way within a legal framework that can be challenged.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by timeon »

adamiscool8 wrote: post #138
boringg wrote: post #109

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China doesn't do friends - thats for sure. However if you have a transactional trade relationship with clear boundaries that don't get undermined due to random temperaments you can build on that. The other is impossible to build on - especially threatening to own the country. This is an eye opening event.

China and their famously steady temperament would never be so bold as to try to own a dependent country or strategically weaponize trade. These are real things Canadians believe - talk about eye opening!

Sure but still better than USA.

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Post by ceejayoz »

chrisco255 wrote: post #145
Analemma_ wrote: post #123

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Between the US and China, one is right now making active threats to invade and annex Canada, the other is not. "Who should we forge ties with" seems pretty obvious.

No one is making serious threats to invade Canada, that's ridiculous. We don't need maple syrup that badly.

A few weeks ago I'd have laughed at the idea of Trump stealing someone's Nobel Peace Prize. But here we are.

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Post by klondike_klive »

bluGill wrote: post #107
footy wrote: post #94

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As a Torontonian that last part is honestly what I'm most excited about. Massive American cars simply do not belong in most of our streets in this city, and if this starts the long process of getting them out that's going to be amazing. I've seen Cybertrucks zooming down streets that are about a Cybertruck and a half wide and it's an untenable situation.

Massive trucks are useful for construction. You should get better transit so less people have cars.

No city ever builds transit infrastructure to tempt people out of their cars, they make the experience of driving shittier and shittier to force people off the road, all the while lambasting drivers for making the city dirty and dangerous.

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Post by dleslie »

yabones wrote: post #135
bluGill wrote: post #107

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Massive trucks are useful for construction. You should get better transit so less people have cars.

Not really... Most F150s have a 5.5' bed which is pathetically small. You can't fit a sheet of plywood or a 2x4 in there without having the tailgate down. You can only really buy full-sized long box trucks if you're part of a fleet program. Most professional builders drive big Savannah vans, which can not only carry full sheets of plywood, but also keep them dry. Plus, the front blindspot is less than one meter. I do…

> You can only really buy full-sized long box trucks if you're part of a fleet program.

This is why the folks I know personally who are actually in the position to need to haul dimensional for work all seem to drive white pickup trucks that they bought from resales of leased fleets.

The _useless_ short bed trucks are driven mostly by young men who were too eager to pile on the personal debt in a show of vanity.

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Post by ceejayoz »

irishcoffee wrote: post #87
bee_rider wrote: post #56

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Where would China be getting savings, here? Unless they are also dropping some tariffs? Canada lowering tariffs saves Canadians money.

> Canada lowering tariffs saves Canadians money. How many chinese EVs are in canada right now? If the answer is close enough to zero as to be insignificant, how is this saving canadians any money on chinese EVs? If it helps, we can say something like: this adds $1-$2B gross revenue to china selling EVs to canada. Profit, probably less than a $1B. Needle still not moving.

> Needle still not moving.

It's a geopolitical needle move, not a purely financial one.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by adamiscool8 »

timeon wrote: post #182
adamiscool8 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China and their famously steady temperament would never be so bold as to try to own a dependent country or strategically weaponize trade. These are real things Canadians believe - talk about eye opening!

Sure but still better than USA.

Better how?

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by sebastiennight »

chrisco255 wrote: post #145
Analemma_ wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Between the US and China, one is right now making active threats to invade and annex Canada, the other is not. "Who should we forge ties with" seems pretty obvious.

No one is making serious threats to invade Canada, that's ridiculous. We don't need maple syrup that badly.

> No one is making serious threats to invade Canada, that's ridiculous

Would you care to share a few actual quotes that show the obvious facetiousness of the US executive comments that have been made about invading Canada, and comparing them with the obvious seriousness of comments from the same administration about invading Venezuela?

This would be very helpful for foreigners who might have difficulties reading the difference between very public statements that seem quite similar from abroad.

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