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Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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post #7

I understand the desire to disable Siri system-wide, but Spotlight? How else are you going to find your files? I'm often annoyed how slow/unreliable Spotlight is, especially in Mail, but what's the alternative here?

macOS is POSIX compatible, so find(1) ?

Or `locate`, or mostly remembering where files live?

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

macOS is POSIX compatible, so find(1) ?

Why would you want to disable an index in favor of an O(N) search?

That might be true in theory, but in practice a find oneliner is still the fastest way to find things. It shouldn't be the case, but a fulltext search is faster than using the OS index, because the former is stable and improved for decades by low level developers, while the later is continuously recreated by people who like Javascript in the UI libraries of the OS.

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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post #7

I understand the desire to disable Siri system-wide, but Spotlight? How else are you going to find your files? I'm often annoyed how slow/unreliable Spotlight is, especially in Mail, but what's the alternative here?

Alfred/Raycast

Both are built on top of the Spotlight index.

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Raycast is lovely for opening up applications, at least.

Challenge with trying to use Raycast more broadly in lieu of Spotlight for systemwide search is Raycast appears to be built on top of the spotlight indexes (mds mdworker)

Oh, I thought they had their own index. My bad.

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

#25
A small but big detail that irritates me is one used to be able to search Applications faster through the dedicated Applications overlay, but now this behavior appears to just be a shortcut to Spotlight, which suffers from incredibly poor index planning.

In the past, when Spotlight was too slow to show me my most used applications by the first few letters, I'd bail and use Applications.

Now I'd have to use Finder, but opening that up would be slow enough that I'd almost need a desktop shortcut.

So, in essence, I have to hack around the most common functionality of using an application on an operating system, which is finding the damn thing. And this is supposed to be the most polished operating system on the market?

Apple frequently appears to be asleep at the wheel.

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

macOS is POSIX compatible, so find(1) ?

Or `locate`, or mostly remembering where files live?

> Never in the past decade have I thought to myself, "gawrsh, I wonder where this file is on my laptop hard drive."

I do, but 80% of the time I'm able to locate it by opening the directory where I would put it. And 10% it's in the "other" directory. And since I have the shell history, in the remaining case it is still a simple search.

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

#27
post #5

It's a shame Apple has decided that if the launch agent or daemon lives in the System folder that means the user/admin should have zero control over it. I should be able to disable any launchd job on my computer end of story.

If that were possible, malware would shut down a mountain of services very quickly.

Right off the bat, XProtect, MRT, Gatekeeper, amfid, system updates, telemetry, MDM...

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

#28

A small but big detail that irritates me is one used to be able to search Applications faster through the dedicated Applications overlay, but now this behavior appears to just be a shortcut to Spotlight, which suffers from incredibly poor index planning. In the past, when Spotlight was too slow to show me my most used applications by the first few letters, I'd bail and use Applications. Now I'd have to use Finder, bu…

Yeah, I used to have a hot corner set up so that I could fling my mouse towards the upper left and then type the first letter or two of the app name, just like in Gnome.

Now that causes the screen to freeze for half a second (possibly my fault - I have 'reduce animations' switched on, but it seems to freeze the screen for the duration of the animation that would previously have played), and then the colour wheel spins for a couple of seconds, and then it might finally respond to my keyboard input... but even then, it fails to find the app maybe 20% of the time. This is on a ~1yo M4 Macbook Pro w/ 36 GB RAM.

So for the past month I've been training myself to alt+tab round to the finder window and navigate to the apps folder from there.

I've never been much of a Macos fan, but this is shockingly poor - less of a papercut, more a wedge of smouldering bamboo shoved under my fingernails.

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