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Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by daedrdev »

irishcoffee wrote: post #115
HNisCIS wrote: post #12

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This x1000, I hope this really turns the screws on the US manufacturers, they need to hurt.

I suppose you realize the people running those manufacturing companies won't be hurt much at all, everyone who scrapes by trying to making a living work for them will hurt a lot when they get fired.

The vast majority of US auto jobs have already been lost to automation yet I don't hear you asking for those to come back in exchange for twice as expensive cars.

This is these companies own fault. These companies have grown cozy rent seeking with little competition and have completely missed the electrification of cars as a result. Cheaper cars will hurt those workers, but all of society will be better off when one of their largest expenses decreases.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by rootusrootus »

The US government has really handled this poorly. Let's take one of our closest allies and push them into the arms of our biggest rival. All while helping boost that rival's total exports to record numbers. And boosting their universities to top positions in world rankings. Just brilliant, guys. "Make America Great Again" sure seems like it was intentionally tongue-in-cheek.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by toast0 »

bilsbie wrote: post #15

Could an American go up and buy one and drive it back? Any registration or insurance issues?

Assuming they don't conform to US safety standards (and aren't easily made to conform), your best bet is to aim for this provision:

> Nonresidents may import a vehicle duty-free for personal use up to (1) one year if the vehicle is imported in conjunction with the owner's arrival. Vehicles imported under this provision that do not conform to U.S. safety and emission standards must be exported within one year and may not be sold in the U.S. There is no exemption or extension of the export requirements.

There's certainly a question of if it's personal use if your canadian friend leaves their vehicle at your place and you drive it around. But your friend can certainly get it over the border and I don't know how much enforcement you'll get after that. You will want the vehicle to return to Canada before the year is up.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by adamiscool8 »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #74
justonceokay wrote: post #63

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Yeah there was never any competing with china, our industry just relies on our market using different values to purchase a car. It’s tough to convince most price-inelastic people they shouldn’t buy a car that is 1/2 price, even if it has fewer features. Edit: to be clear I meant that the US did not compete, not that they could not compete

> Yeah thee was never any competing with china, our industry just relies on our market using different values to purchase a car. This is patently false. The US could have competed with China if it had maintained investments spinning up battery manufacturing and downstream systems to build EVs at scale, while subsidizing EVs (fossil fuels are subsidized to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars per year [1]) and…

The offset is not positive when you factor in the externalities that go into escalating Chinese EV production.

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Post by chrisco255 »

Analemma_ wrote: post #123
nsmdkdfk wrote: post #52

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Between the US and China, one is right now making active threats to invade and annex Canada, the other is not. "Who should we forge ties with" seems pretty obvious.

No one is making serious threats to invade Canada, that's ridiculous. We don't need maple syrup that badly.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by footy »

chrisco255 wrote: post #139
footy wrote: post #66

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neither does America, and they're much closer and dangerous to us at this time.

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The US is currently threatening multiple of its NATO partners and serious people don't expect NATO to be around by the end of 2028. I am a less serious person I guess, because I expect it to break up within a year.

I'm glad you have so many cool 80 year old anecdotes to tell yourself, but things change.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by SECProto »

kingstnap wrote: post #37

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> It's for just 50k vehicles, which means that the first 50k that get sent will be all Luxury high margin electric vehicles. [...] Why would anyone use there quota for cheap stuff?

If you find a better primary source, you'll see that the lower price vehicles are the only thing allowed at the low tariff rate:

The deal covers vehicles priced at $33,000 or less, and other cars sold at that price are already manufactured offshore

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/livestory/canada-china-elec...

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Post by fbelzile »

adamiscool8 wrote: post #111
lifetimerubyist wrote: post #92

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> I feel Canada only set tariffs on cars out of some deference to the US auto industry That is exactly what they did. https://financialpost.com/commodities/energy/electric-vehicl... > The tariffs follow a May announcement by U.S. President Joe Biden of 100 per cent tariffs on Chinese-made EVs. > Trudeau said on Sunday night that he had discussed China and other national geopolitical issues with U.S. national security…

Nothing to do with “unfair, non-market policies and practices […] and China’s intentional, state-directed policy of overcapacity and lack of rigorous labour and environmental standards”? I suppose that doesn’t even register anymore to the average selectively outraged parochial Canadian. [0] https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2024/08/can...

It can, and likely was, both.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by tokai »

adamiscool8 wrote: post #78
dawnerd wrote: post #68

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No different than American companies or European companies. With the US having Palantir in their pocket…

The accountability and scale are hugely different to the point I don’t see how anyone can make this argument in good faith.

Are you following the news? Canada is the target of a trade war from the US right now.
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