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Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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Went down this rabbit hole a few months ago seeing whether it was at all possible to disable the automatic OCR / processing of all image files on macOS.

Wasn't able to figure out how to do so but this blog was absolutely the best resource for digging one layer deeper on all things Spotlight-related, highly recommend.

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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post #7

I understand the desire to disable Siri system-wide, but Spotlight? How else are you going to find your files? I'm often annoyed how slow/unreliable Spotlight is, especially in Mail, but what's the alternative here?

Raycast is lovely for opening up applications, at least.

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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post #4

Honestly I have no idea if they have the best answer, but I thoroughly respect a blog post like this that is so concise/wastes no time. Here is the issue, here is what we want to do, here is what it won’t do, ultimately this is the best solution we have come up with + clear instructions.

The Eclectic Light has been the best Mac technology blog for years, often serving as the only source of knowledge for how some of the more obscure system components work.

Good to know!

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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post #7

I understand the desire to disable Siri system-wide, but Spotlight? How else are you going to find your files? I'm often annoyed how slow/unreliable Spotlight is, especially in Mail, but what's the alternative here?

Raycast is lovely for opening up applications, at least.

Challenge with trying to use Raycast more broadly in lieu of Spotlight for systemwide search is Raycast appears to be built on top of the spotlight indexes (mds mdworker)

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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post #7

I understand the desire to disable Siri system-wide, but Spotlight? How else are you going to find your files? I'm often annoyed how slow/unreliable Spotlight is, especially in Mail, but what's the alternative here?

I’m not a turn spotlight off guy but it is a bit of a pig in terms of apple’s approaches to system crawling and indexing and how it leaves its metadata detritus all over the disk. I can see the desire to disable it for some.

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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post #7

I understand the desire to disable Siri system-wide, but Spotlight? How else are you going to find your files? I'm often annoyed how slow/unreliable Spotlight is, especially in Mail, but what's the alternative here?

Raycast is lovely for opening up applications, at least.

Doesn't Raycast (and all the other popular alternatives) build on top of the Spotlight system?

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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post #7

I understand the desire to disable Siri system-wide, but Spotlight? How else are you going to find your files? I'm often annoyed how slow/unreliable Spotlight is, especially in Mail, but what's the alternative here?

macOS is POSIX compatible, so find(1) ?

Why would you want to disable an index in favor of an O(N) search?

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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post #12
post #5

It's a shame Apple has decided that if the launch agent or daemon lives in the System folder that means the user/admin should have zero control over it. I should be able to disable any launchd job on my computer end of story.

Disable SIP

What sucks is that you can't disable SIP without _also_ disabling disk encryption ("FileVault"), because Apple changed from full disk encryption to only encrypting user data, and relying on SIP and crypto hashes to protect the system partition. Therefore, you can't "safely" disable SIP, as you'd be able to boot into recovery mode and perform an evil maid attack.

This is really irritating, both that:

- I can't "accept the risk" and force disk encryption anyway. This may be technically possible if you bludgeon the OS enough, but it's definitely not something the built in CLI tooling supports.

- I can't use the old full disk encryption mode. Presumably, this code does or did still exist somewhere, but isn't supported because it's not used in any supported configuration.

So you're left with the option of having no disk encryption on your laptop, or having SIP.

EDIT: I'm thinking of SSV, not SIP per se. But when it comes to disabling the built-in launchd services like Spotlight, you have to disable SSV to do so, and that requires disabling FileVault.

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