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Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by nindalf »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #131
nindalf wrote: post #125

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SQLite made and makes a lot of money from a lot of the people who use them. It's free for us to use, but it wasn't free for Motorola and AOL and Nokia (and later Google, Apple and Adobe) who contracted the team to build it out, add features, fix bugs on it. This wasn't FOSS funded by a few people's free time. It was a commercial business that made money by finding product market fit - the best embedded database in th…

> If you can find paying customers that can fund your development, then it's fantastic. It's even better if those contracts give you scale that none of your competitors have. You don't need VC money if that's the case. But let's not pretend that Astro were in that situation. No one was paying for a web framework. Didn't this just happen right now that Astro got acquired by Cloudflare? I am sure that Cloudflare has bo…

> they could've still partnered up with cloudflare,netlify,vercel etc.

What makes you think they aren't? https://docs.astro.build/en/getting-started/ says on the bottom left: Sponsored by Cloudflare, Netlify, Webflow, MUX.

> consulting to get to 100 Lightscore

Problem is, it was possible to get there with minimal effort. The default config of Astro was 100. I know absolutely nothing about web dev and my personal website was all 100s.

And in any case, consultancy doesn't scale. Interestingly Tailwind has that kind of model - free software, pay for beautifully crafted components. And their business isn't doing well.

We don't know what would have happened in an alternate universe. But it's hard out there building businesses on FOSS. Can't blame anyone for trying - VC or otherwise.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by Aurornis »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #135
Trufa wrote: post #123

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Damn, I didn't notice it at all, but now it's quite obvious, it feels like stuff like this is taking the enjoyment out of consuming anything.

I did notice after seeing all the em-dashes. Shame because in a sense I could've agreed with them or atleast have a good discussion but if they didn't even take time to write their posts then oof If the purpose of this was to promote their academy or school or whatever, what was the point? Because at this point, they have lost all credibility and respect and HN isn't a gullible audience so I don't understand the poin…

> If the purpose of this was to promote their academy or school or whatever, what was the point? Because at this point, they have lost all credibility and respect and HN isn't a gullible audience so I don't understand the point of why they did this

It’s the top voted comment right now. Their comment history has similar comments with links to their products and content.

I think they’re doing it because it was working for them. I bet they’re happy with the additional traffic they’re picking up for a minute or two of promoting an LLM and then appending a link at the end.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by nindalf »

nonethewiser wrote: post #139
Aurornis wrote: post #132

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Meta response: This account’s recent comment history is almost exclusively self promotion for their content, YouTube channel, and school. Much of the comment text appears LLM generated with classic signs such as the em dash, bullet point lists, and this-not-that comparisons that are common to LLM generated output. It’s noteworthy because this comment is currently the top voted comment, probably because it hits all th…

Also: "This isn't X. It's Y.". The criticism is also not very pointed. Like, I don't understand what the core message is. There is disdain for VC money and an implication that Astro could have gone without monetization. Both of which don't seem very well argued. But even if we grant those points ... so what? What is our take away supposed to be? It's a bunch of negative observations that don't funnel into some concre…

The top comment doesn't even make sense. Sqlite actually had to get funding to continue operating! They weren't immune from worries like paying rent or buying groceries.

It's just an ad that people are upvoting uncritically.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by Havoc »

I hope they maintain a clear path to delay separately too.

With these sort of combinations the deploy to cloudflare button gets ever bigger than over time. And then features get added that only work with CF and eventually it’s still open source but only half the stuff works standalone etc

That said - good for them.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by halestock »

pjmlp wrote: post #109
halestock wrote: post #107

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No, it depends on whether they have an ownership stake in what they’re funding or not.

All a matter of if the project dies when the money fountain runs dry, and developers have to find another way to pay bills other than a few meagre donations.

Ok sure, but now you’re just describing something completely different.
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