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America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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My guess is non-citizens or 'undocumented immigrants'.

Those as well. But even citizens and immigrants with paperwork can often not vote for local elections if they do not have stable housing.

Yes, because they don’t legally permanently live in that place. Sorry not sorry. Why do you think anyone can just sign up for some local elections and vote for a town they’re not even legally permanently situated in??

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

#92

Pay Japanese salaries, get Japanese prices [0]. That $4 kombini bento feels like a $13 burrito or Cava bowl when on a Japanese salary. Japan only appears cheap if you earn in USD, GBP, and Euros. For most Japanese households, costs have risen higher than salaries [1][2] and they are now facing inflation due to tourist spending [7][8][9]. It also doesn't help that the median household income in Japan is around $25,000…

> Japan’s minimum wage ($6.68 an hour) is similar to America’s ($7.25).

>to America’s ($7.25).

That's the federal minimum wage. The actual minimum wage, factoring in state and local rates is actually around $12, 65% higher.

https://www.economist.com/content-assets/images/20251122_FNC...

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

#93

I have heard that there are no zoning laws in Houston, Texas. Are there $4 lunch bowls there?

There are still requirements for the types of use classifications (including things like parking minimums[0]), there are still food safety regulations, etc.

The lax zoning laws doesn't mean there are no rules, just that there are no rules preventing you from having an eatery right next to an active oil and gas well right next to a townhouse right next to a liquor store right next to a welding shop.

[0] https://www.houstontx.gov/planning/DevelopRegs/docs_pdfs/par...

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

#94
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Protests come when people are pushed into a corner with little other choice. Participation is more prevalent when people have free time in their lives. Our economics has systematically squeezed free time out in favor of more work to most of our workforce, and particularly hard for young people. One reason so many local city policies favor the old, is that they're retired and have the time to participate

I don't think economics have squeezed out free time -- phones squeeze out all our free time.

Having two or three jobs is not really conductive to free time.

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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Restaurants will charge what people are able to pay. My office is on the third floor of a century-old parisian building, in the heart of the city. The street is filled with tiny restaurants, some of which serve these "healthy lunch bowls" that the US apparently lacks. Except they're 14€ here (without drinks or desserts), because people have the money to pay for it, and do so. You can relax zoning laws, but no one will price their bowls at $4 in the richest country on Earth, obviously.

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

#96
Just having visited Japan, another thing that's immediately apparent though is that there are other well-intentioned laws that prevent this from happening. My favorite breakfast was like $8 (which was better than American breakfast by an order-of-magnitude) was in a tiny shop that had a tiny curved staircase that could scarcely fit tall people, definitely not obese people, and don't even pretend handicap people.

Frankly I think alternative laws should be applicable (you don't need to be able seat wheelchair people if you're willing to bring the food to them to-go) since I just think it's not worth losing that efficient density and cost-effectiveness for a tiny tiny fraction of the population.

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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> Japan’s minimum wage ($6.68 an hour) is similar to America’s ($7.25).

But does anyone actually make minimum wage in the US? Statistics i can find suggest it is around 1% with Japan closer to 20%.

Most (30) states have their own minimum wage, higher than the federal. 20 have no minimum wage or a minimum lower than or equal to the federal.

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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I've lived in various European cities where I was not able to vote for various reasons. Such as living hotel long-term, living in a holiday home, being semi-homeless, sub-letting, crashing on someones couch. Seasonal workers, migrant workers or people with unstable employment are typically in this situation. No, I was not able to vote.

I get the sentiment about "why would I let people who aren't going to stay long term decide how the city is run?" but in the end it creates a city that is indifferent or even hostile to people in that situation. It ends up disenfranchising a population that will always be there, even if the people who make up that population is constantly changing.

The ones who will “always be there” can get their papers for permanent residence done and vote. If they don’t want to (or can’t since they don’t have the legal grounds to even stay there for longer), then they shouldn’t have a say on decisions that can permanently change things about the place.

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

#99

It probably isn't as simple as the writer thinks. Houston, for example, has no zoning laws and no $4 lunch bowls.

Houston has similar regulations that effectively serve the same purpose to determine land use, which is zoning adjacent.

You can get a banh mi for like $5 in Houston

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those as well. But even citizens and immigrants with paperwork can often not vote for local elections if they do not have stable housing.

Yes, because they don’t legally permanently live in that place. Sorry not sorry. Why do you think anyone can just sign up for some local elections and vote for a town they’re not even legally permanently situated in??

Then change the fucking system so that people who have been living in a city for years can legally do so. Or kick them out. But don't have this vague system of sub-humans that are not allowed to influence their surroundings by voting.
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