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Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by stared »

I love Astro - migrated my blog there (here it was a gradual improvement), migrated company website there (here a lot, to joy of everyone). In the times of vibe coding, there is much less reason to use WYSWIG website editors. In our company, a non-technical assistant, modified website with Claude Code.

I hope that this acquisition will go well. It would be sad to lose this great framework. At the same time, we deploy on Cloudflare. So their business is to keep Astro cool so that more people will use Claudflare, it would be a win-win!

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by bflesch »

philipallstar wrote: post #6

It would be good to understand what Cloudflare gets out of the deal. The article is very much just "Astro, but someone else pays the bills!" which is of course lovely for Astro.

Cloudflare definitely gets positive PR out of this which makes people forget their CEO's recent meltdown on twitter.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by whatevaa »

afavour wrote: post #74
timeon wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Users get by with it. They would not if they had choice.

And they don't. Web development practices are largely driven by what developers want, not what users want. Which is why Google started doing things like measuring Core Web Vitals and having it affect SEO rankings, to force developers to care.

Most non-technical users have no idea what they want. They will happily request a feature to implement an email client in your database.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by dkhenry »

Astro on Cloudflare workers has been my goto stack for multiple years now. I am very happy with it, and hope this makes the integration stronger.

Now we just need Cloudflare to buy one of the DBaaS companies so they have a solid relational offering.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by pjmlp »

tialaramex wrote: post #88
pjmlp wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Linux: 33 years old, runs the internet, community-funded Only in dreams, it took off thanks to the likes of IBM that decided it was a way to save costs on their UNIX development efforts, many key projects have been founded thanks to Red-Hat Enterprise licenses, nowadays also part of IBM. GCC, clang, GNOME, Linux kernel, systemd, CUPS, AMD/NVidia drivers, have plenty of big corp money. From https://en.wikipedia.org/…

It's still the community when the community is via corporations. Corporations are just groups of people. Pure grass roots "We collect the money, anonymously in cash shaking a bucket at our annual fundraiser" does not work at this scale. Even Zig, which I'm guessing is about as far away from "It's all just owned by an inhuman corporation" as you could ask for, does have big ticket corporate donors. So does ISRG (Let's…

The tone of OP was more like the "community of peace and love without money from the man".

Gathering around projects, talking over USENET, Gopher, phpBB forums, sharing code over email, Sourceforge, Savannah , living the FOSS dream, the whole mantra of when the GNU manifesto came to be.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by pjmlp »

haolez wrote: post #65
pjmlp wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Linux: 33 years old, runs the internet, community-funded Only in dreams, it took off thanks to the likes of IBM that decided it was a way to save costs on their UNIX development efforts, many key projects have been founded thanks to Red-Hat Enterprise licenses, nowadays also part of IBM. GCC, clang, GNOME, Linux kernel, systemd, CUPS, AMD/NVidia drivers, have plenty of big corp money. From https://en.wikipedia.org/…

Big corp money is not VC money. That's the point.

Depends on which corporation.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by philipallstar »

MarkusAllen wrote: post #46

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SQLite probably never took VC money, yes. People pay them for work.

Many, many people working on Linux work for companies that pay them to work on Linux. Linux is not, and I don't believe has ever claimed to be, community-funded.

Nginx was bought, a couple of times maybe, so they have had cash injections of some sort.

> We need more ways to fund infrastructure that don't require artificial monetization timelines.

Funding infrastructure isn't the problem, exactly. VC is for a specific type of funding: risky businesses that need scale to make money. We have found the answer: VCs, who are willing to lose all their money on your project.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by pjmlp »

Terretta wrote: post #71
pjmlp wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Linux: 33 years old, runs the internet, community-funded Only in dreams, it took off thanks to the likes of IBM that decided it was a way to save costs on their UNIX development efforts, many key projects have been founded thanks to Red-Hat Enterprise licenses, nowadays also part of IBM. GCC, clang, GNOME, Linux kernel, systemd, CUPS, AMD/NVidia drivers, have plenty of big corp money. From https://en.wikipedia.org/…

Not sure it's dreams to say "community-funded". Depends on terminology. The funding assertion leverages the re-definition of “community” in “community funded” and relates to why all those big projects offer CE or Community Editions instead of calling it free or open source editions. Enterprises are willing to take a look at free, but "community editions" are clearly for peons, not the big boys, so they license the co…

Community isn't certainly big corporations, some of which have been born out of VC money as well.
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