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Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by philipwhiuk »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #9

I am very disappointed with Astro. Who is this framework for? It's been years, and they still don't support unit testing Astro Actions. They still don't support inter-island communication. "Astro v6 is around the corner" - and the only changes are 1. refactored CLI (why? it's perfectly fine) 2. bumped zod to v4 It's great if you want to build a blog or something, but it's definitely far from great for building apps .…

If all you are writing a blog and you're not using Substack or Squarespace or any of the other million blog hosting options you're crazy IMO.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by boxed »

embedding-shape wrote: post #10

> In 2021, Astro was born out of frustration. The trend at the time was that every website should be architected as an application, and then shipped to the user’s browser to render. Was it? Hot damn, I knew it'll eventually happen, but we truly are just running around in circles. Eventually these same people will do the same loop around, creating new frameworks because the current "server client" model suddenly doesn…

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Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by philipwhiuk »

embedding-shape wrote: post #10

> In 2021, Astro was born out of frustration. The trend at the time was that every website should be architected as an application, and then shipped to the user’s browser to render. Was it? Hot damn, I knew it'll eventually happen, but we truly are just running around in circles. Eventually these same people will do the same loop around, creating new frameworks because the current "server client" model suddenly doesn…

Yeah, I'm not sure I understand why "islands" isn't just "bits of JavaScript on a static page".

It feels like the "JavaScript as a Server Side Language" folk are just repeatedly re-inventing stuff that has been done a million times by other systems with a different back-end only with a new fancy name.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by pxtail »

philipallstar wrote: post #6

It would be good to understand what Cloudflare gets out of the deal. The article is very much just "Astro, but someone else pays the bills!" which is of course lovely for Astro.

It's obvious when you look at https://astro.build/blog/astro-6-beta/ and see "Cloudflare" sprinkled everywhere in the article.

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by drawfloat »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #9

I am very disappointed with Astro. Who is this framework for? It's been years, and they still don't support unit testing Astro Actions. They still don't support inter-island communication. "Astro v6 is around the corner" - and the only changes are 1. refactored CLI (why? it's perfectly fine) 2. bumped zod to v4 It's great if you want to build a blog or something, but it's definitely far from great for building apps .…

I don't think it's really targeted at building apps, as far as I can tell its whole pitch has always been that that most websites are not apps and therefore most websites do not need a full JS framework like Next.js.

They even say it in this blog:

"Our mission to design a web framework specifically for building websites — what we call content-driven websites, to better distinguish from data-driven, stateful web applications — resonated"

Re: Cloudflare acquires Astro

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Post by philipwhiuk »

philipallstar wrote: post #6

It would be good to understand what Cloudflare gets out of the deal. The article is very much just "Astro, but someone else pays the bills!" which is of course lovely for Astro.

Feels like they are trying to do vertical integration on the whole stack and compete with Vercel.
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