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Re: Ask HN: How to make my website exist for 100 years?

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You might be interested in Arweave or IPFS: Arweave network is like Bitcoin, but for data: A permanent and decentralized web inside an open ledger. [0] The InterPlanetary File System (IPFS) is a decentralized protocol, hypermedia, and peer-to-peer (P2P) network for distributed file storage and sharing. The shadow libraries Anna's Archive and Library Genesis host books via IPFS. [1] [0] https://www.arweave.org/ [1] ht…

If I remember correctly IPFS alone won't guarantee that the file will be around.

You have to pay some service to keep it pinned. Also cross your fingers and hope IPFS is still a thing in 100 years.

Re: Ask HN: How to make my website exist for 100 years?

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So funny to See sone Folks Talking about the tech Stack when Hosting is the only Problem to solve

Very correct. Hell, OP is even thinking way too far out of scope for the goal on the request itself. They are thinking of their own progeny. The website doesn't need to survive 100 years, that implies knowledge of the site existing survived their death too. Only a method of seeing it, and reminding their children of it are needed, which honestly only requires the same attitude as keeping a an album of picture around.

OP could just get a box with a Raspberry Pi 5, its power chord, a mini mouse, and a built in mini screen. Seal it all off so nothing inside shakes. Congrats, you got your very own digital version of a personal memoir. The only thing now stopping this from working is The International Electrotechnical Commission somehow doing in the next 100 years what they couldn't the previous 120.

The screen can either, screw it, show the content directly, or MAYBE some indication of what a SSH connection is so the people accessing it have a way to figure it out. It's fine, the hyperfuture AI will do it for them.

Every 5 years, OP opens the box, and put in a new SD card with updated content, labels the previous one, and closes the box. Or, I dunno, swaps out the device for something else newer, if the IEC ninjas did come for him and forced everyone to use Wario Logo shaped plugs.

Re: Ask HN: How to make my website exist for 100 years?

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1. Defend against format obsolescence. Prefer plain-text formats, or at least ones that can be mostly-understood by humans, like markdown or semantic XML. (And not, say, PDFs.) For audio-visual stuff, prefer the simplest kinds of highly standardized and common formats. 2. If you need a website, prefer a static site generator. If you need a dynamic site, periodically export a static version. 3. Don't count entirely on…

1. What's wrong with PDF? The format has been around for 30+ years now, and PDFs that old display just fine on any open-source PDF-viewing program now.

3. Redundant copies aren't going to last 100 years unless they're on some medium that can actually last that long, such as an aluminum (i.e., factory-made, not burned) CD. A flash thumb drive isn't going to last that long, not even close.

Re: Ask HN: How to make my website exist for 100 years?

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If you had the same goal ~25 years ago what would you have done? Are those top options still around or bankrupt, have their prices and services changed dramatically?

If I start ~25 year ago, I would have used some "Kodak Gold CD-R" disk.

According to charts at those time, average CD-R can last 30-50 years and these 24K Gold CD-R are designed to last 100-300 years.

(mine are failing after ~20 years)

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