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The AWS EC2 virtualization team invented and maintains the Nitro system. And that team is overwhelmingly based in Seattle, WA USA.
You sure about that? Maybe it's just a coincidence but the low-level people I've talked to are almost never based in Seattle.
The Nitro _card_ teams are elsewhere
I worked on a team deploying a service to European Sovereign Cloud (ESC). Disclaimer - I am a low level SDE and all opinions are my own. AWS has set up proper boundaries between ESC and global AWS. Since I'm based out of the US I can't see anything going on in ECS even in the service we develop. To fix an issue there we have to play telephone with an engineer in ESC where they give us a summary of the issue or debug…
Sovereign-by-design but still runs a software stack that is largely written and maintained by a US staff... All of these isolation sovereignty iniatives are window dressing to the bigger problem that the EU and other countries are massively dependent on proprietaey US-centric software stacks.
> Sovereign-by-design but still runs a software stack that is largely written and maintained by a US staff... Id argue that very few software components are written (let alone maintained) by US staff. This is basically another major player (there are other sovereign clouds) reading the writing on the wall and doing what is necessary to avoid losing business or being irradiated from the market. CloudFlare CEO, take no…
CloudFlare’s objection to Italy’s demands were that Italy demanded CloudFlare censor websites outside of Italy for everyone, globally. CloudFlare refused to do so and said they’d stop providing services to Italy.
Do you realize what you’re asking for in ClodFlare listening to Italy? The US will get total say over what content can be hosted anywhere in Europe (by CloudFlare), due to that precedent being set (and their greater ability to coerce ClodFlare).
Your comment is contradictory: you phrased it as respecting sovereignty, but your actual demand is that CloudFlare allow the US to enforce edicts on the EU.
If push comes to shove, these services can and will be weaponized against EU interests. They are bugged and backdoored to the brim. If we see a risk in chinese-made electrical buses which can potentially be remotely shut down by an integrated sim card, then using AWS should be a no go in the current political climate - no matter how much lipstick they put on that pig. Last week, after receiving a fine in Italy, the C…
People talking about EU sovereignty and US hegemony then crying Italy isn’t allowed to dictate terms globally are showing they’re not people with principles — they’re just losers who would be every bit as hegemonic as the US, they just lack the power to be and are publicly crying about it.
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I don't think there are any protections against that. On the other hand, you'd have to ask yourself how realistic it is that the US is forcing Amazon to secretly backdoor its own software for US spying abroad? I can't give an answer on that one, you'll have to form your own opinion. I imagine that if a back door were ever discovered, AWS's reputation would tank so hard that a lot of companies would probably never do…
> how realistic it is that the US is forcing Amazon to secretly backdoor its own software for US spying abroad? probably 100%?
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You sure about that? Maybe it's just a coincidence but the low-level people I've talked to are almost never based in Seattle.
The Nitro Hypervisor team is (mostly) in Berlin :) The Nitro _card_ teams are elsewhere
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It would seem like the problem is one of the business layout and technical layout. Organize your business and your tech correctly and you can have an owned foreign subsidiary that can comply with local laws. But things would have to be quite separate.
> Organize your business and your tech correctly and you can have an owned foreign subsidiary that can comply with local laws. I doubt it, a majority owned subsidiary is usually passed through for many legal purposes.
Just make it complex enough to confuse juries beyond a prosecutors famously low appetite for losing and you'll be absolutely fine.
Seriously though, what is stopping Europeans to "just build their own"? EU could provide some form of financing - cheap loans, tax breaks, favourable regulation etc. I know AWS is a million things, not just VMs, but is building a small cloud provider and scaling from there really that hard? Maybe I'm being super naive - ELI5 please?
For a small/medium business in EU ESC is an overkill. Their data has no strategic value. Just use whatever infrastructure you want.
For any large company working at global level, owning cutting edge technology ESC is not a protection.
US just stolen a president of foreign country, do you really believe they would hesitate to do this with anybody else if they want?