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Re: Cloudflare threatens Italy exit over €14M fine

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Post by notepad0x90 »

They really should do this, this is the right and honorable thing to do instead of interfering with local governments and deriding of government organizations by their CEO.

I don't even agree with what the Italian government did, but more companies need to do this instead of lobbying for or against laws. No one elected you. The loud voice and influence you wield because of success as a commercial entity does not entitle you a louder voice and power than the citizens of that country. Pull out, if the Italian people don't like the result, they can work on getting things changed. They didn't vote for @eastdakota

Same goes for apple, google, microsoft, signal, twitter, etc.. I fear what all these have in common is the parasitical oligarchy in the US where companies, CEOs and billionaires puppeting the government with the string for everyone to see (what will anyone do about it?), and it doesn't even register for a moment that there is anything abnormal or harmful about it.

In a democracy, the person who controls popular opinion is the ultimate ruler. That person is supposed to be other citizens as individuals.

Re: Cloudflare threatens Italy exit over €14M fine

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Post by x3n0ph3n3 »

nurettin wrote: post #10
x3n0ph3n3 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Cloudflare is being forced to censor content based on requests that have not been judicially reviewed. Why do you think Italy is the good guy here?

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Nah, sports broadcasters and organizations shouldn't get special veto privileges on the internet.

Re: Cloudflare threatens Italy exit over €14M fine

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Post by atonse »

denkmoon wrote: post #15

A wolf in sheep's clothing. Cloudflare care about the "open internet" exactly as far as they can profit from it. Why does the "open internet" not allow this polity the right to block itself from that which it deems as harmful?

Did you read the details of the article?

The regulator fined them for not hacking DNS to the whims of the media companies in Italy that want to clamp down on piracy by altering the way DNS works. DNS. The actual "open internet"

I think you may have this backwards.

To me it seems like something they should talk to local Italian ISPs about, not Cloudflare.

Re: Cloudflare threatens Italy exit over €14M fine

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Post by blibble »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #11

They really should do this, this is the right and honorable thing to do instead of interfering with local governments and deriding of government organizations by their CEO. I don't even agree with what the Italian government did, but more companies need to do this instead of lobbying for or against laws. No one elected you. The loud voice and influence you wield because of success as a commercial entity does not enti…

> They really should do this, this is the right and honorable thing to do instead of interfering with local governments and deriding of government organizations by their CEO.

plus it will kill their company forever across Europe

DO IT!

(and if the Italians are worried about the olympics, just wait a month and then do it)

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