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Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by krick »

As others pointed out, this isn't a very strong offer, but I'm wondering, if it would be competitive (price/performance wise), does anyone have a use-case for this? I mean, I can name quite a few if it would offer me some hardware that my laptop I'm using to access it just doesn't have, like some A100-level GPUs and stuff, then it would be fantastic: login, do your job, forget about it until the next time you need it. But for anything else it feels like I'd just prefer something more… traditional? Like, DigitalOcean droplet, AWS instance, Linode VPS, you get the idea. At least a managed Docker container. Even if it's technically more expensive and less performant, we are talking like $5/mo, and you can pretty much always easily scale-up or buy additional storage volume, all these things. And it's all yours, for pretty much all practical intents and purposes.

Does anyone have a legit use-case when it would be actually nicer to use this on-demand type of service? (Once more, unless we are talking some serious on-demand hardware.)

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by indigodaddy »

blackqueeriroh wrote: post #20
messh wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One difference other than price is that sprites doesn't seem to use ssh

You can use ssh with a sprite.

Nope, unless they changed this recently. It's an ssh-like way to connect and get a console/terminal, but it's not ssh, and there is no transfer capability

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by krick »

singpolyma3 wrote: post #50
WhyNotHugo wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird fun fact (as an Argentinian who went to school in England for a few years): in English-speaking countries, America is not a continent in the same way as in Spanish. In English they have two continents: South America and North America. So the word "American" in English does not mean the same as "Americano" in Spanish. There's really no natural word in English to refer to someone from "El continente Americano", b…

"American" to refer to USA exclusively does make sense either way because USA shares the continent with at least two other countries no matter how you slice it.

You probably meant "doesn't make sense".

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by indigodaddy »

zackify wrote: post #55

There's been so many of these lately. I really need to share a blog post on doing this exact thing with a VPS, 2 commands to install and setup lxd. And then client side bash function to just make and connect via tmux and delete when you're done. Self hosting these services is too easy to do and you can have more control of your data and better specs.

On this same idea, I just started working on shelley-lxc: https://github.com/jgbrwn/shelley-lxc

Work in progress/alpha, but the core functionality works as a proof of concept. Super exciting working on this kind of stuff.

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by ronsor »

krick wrote: post #71

As others pointed out, this isn't a very strong offer, but I'm wondering, if it would be competitive (price/performance wise), does anyone have a use-case for this? I mean, I can name quite a few if it would offer me some hardware that my laptop I'm using to access it just doesn't have, like some A100-level GPUs and stuff, then it would be fantastic: login, do your job, forget about it until the next time you need it…

For these kinds of services, I think the main value would be UX improvements, such as offering an environment preconfigured with a certain set of tools (e.g. nmap, tmux, curl, etc.) and other defaults. SSH in, and don't deal with a web panel. They may also be valuable in a learning environment where you don't want student servers running 24/7.

Other than those points, offering access to more powerful hardware is probably the best use-case.

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by indigodaddy »

zinodaur wrote: post #37

Love this idea! Started building a version of it a while ago, but gave up because my resume time was too slow My job has their own DCs, but inexplicably hosts devboxes in EC2 - an autosuspend feature for cost savings sounds awesome. Feature request: let me give you a Dropbox folder to persist/load my suspended vms from/to, that way i dont get charged for storage when not using it, and i can walk away whenever i want

The Dropbox idea sounds super interesting

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by nodesocket »

Egor3f wrote: post #4

$36/mo for 2/4/50 VPS without public IP... Ok, I get the idea that the service is for non-regular use, but I think even $0.005 per hour ($3.6/mo) of suspended state is too expensive. The same config in Hetzner is just $4.09/mo for 24/7 working VPS with public IPv4 address

Pricing does not make any sense. I can get a AWS EC2 t4g.small (2 vCPUs, 2 GB memory) with a 50 GB EBS SSD (gp3) for a total of $16.26/mo.

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by TurdF3rguson »

arianvanp wrote: post #63
TurdF3rguson wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right you would need it to be on-demand to hibernate like that but even then a medium will beat these prices I believe.

I think you can technically hibernate the instance when the spot reclaim signal comes in. Then snapshot the instance and then terminate it. Can then spawn a new instance from the snapshot and it should unhibernate Whether the OS will like that... That's another point. As there will be things that change like smbios etc

That's a cold boot though and things like tmux sessions will disappear. (I'm assuming that doesn't happen with shellbox)

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by nh2 »

kelnos wrote: post #39
znpy wrote: post #36

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> you could consider accepting lightning (bitcoin layer2) payments. uh? i lost interest in bitcoin a few years ago, did bitcoin get actually usable for payments ?

Not really. I mean, I guess the lightning stuff makes it settle/confirm faster than doing an on-chain transaction, but bitcoin as a store of value is still essentially gambling. So you'd want to immediately sell it and convert it to USD (or a stable coin, I guess), and presumably you're incurring fees at whatever exchange you're using. 5% for paddle does sound like it kinda sucks, but I feel like any lower fee you'd…

> 5% for paddle does sound like it kinda sucks

Don't underestimate the benefit of it doing international VAT collection and payment. Especially for small amounts.

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