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Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof

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Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof

#11

Post by gambiting »

maeon3 wrote: post #10

It's like robin hood taking from the rich and giving to the poor, his motives are pure, depending on how you look at it, and robin hood can continue this as long as the governing body who wants him dead is inept at catching him. The pirate bay, like robin hood, cannot live forever. SOME of us will only be stronger than ALL of us for brief moments in history. The only way TPB is to survive is for it to make good on it…

And then they will move exclusively to TOR. And then TOR will be outlawed and anybody using it will be sentenced to 20 years in prison.

Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof

#12

Post by Achshar »

rmc wrote: post #9
sgt wrote: post #3

Unless they raid the cloud...?

(a) You have to find out what cloud provider (b) You have to raid 2 cloud providers (c) what if they have 4 backup cloud installs ready to go live? You take out the 2 there, and then 2 more in a different, unknown hosting company go live.

Also they don't get any useful data as all data on cloud providers is encrypted. So providers won't even know they are hosting piratebay.

Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof

#14

Post by S4M »

gambiting wrote: post #11
maeon3 wrote: post #10

It's like robin hood taking from the rich and giving to the poor, his motives are pure, depending on how you look at it, and robin hood can continue this as long as the governing body who wants him dead is inept at catching him. The pirate bay, like robin hood, cannot live forever. SOME of us will only be stronger than ALL of us for brief moments in history. The only way TPB is to survive is for it to make good on it…

And then they will move exclusively to TOR. And then TOR will be outlawed and anybody using it will be sentenced to 20 years in prison.

It's gonna be hard to identify who is usung TOR, and doing so will require to take measures that will be against freedom, like controlling what people are installing on their computers.

Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof

#16

Post by smogzer »

They have to do it like this:

- emule like dht.

- keep a cache of 1000 of ips that had trustworthy content in different ip neighbourhoods.

- provide a pub-sub of new content + hot/top files.

- seed one-to-download one file. Host encrypted content, freenet style to have faster speeds on other files. Never allowing a file to go seedless.

- the software could be provided as a chrome+firefox sandboxed addon or something like that.

Go hackers go.

Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof

#17

Post by haakon »

S4M wrote: post #14
gambiting wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then they will move exclusively to TOR. And then TOR will be outlawed and anybody using it will be sentenced to 20 years in prison.

It's gonna be hard to identify who is usung TOR, and doing so will require to take measures that will be against freedom, like controlling what people are installing on their computers.

It's very easy to identify most people who use Tor (almost all nodes are publicly available). You can't know what they use it for, but if merely using it becomes illegal, the secret police will have a very neat list of houses to visit.

Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof

#18

Post by SquareWheel »

gambiting wrote: post #11
maeon3 wrote: post #10

It's like robin hood taking from the rich and giving to the poor, his motives are pure, depending on how you look at it, and robin hood can continue this as long as the governing body who wants him dead is inept at catching him. The pirate bay, like robin hood, cannot live forever. SOME of us will only be stronger than ALL of us for brief moments in history. The only way TPB is to survive is for it to make good on it…

And then they will move exclusively to TOR. And then TOR will be outlawed and anybody using it will be sentenced to 20 years in prison.

Somehow I don't think bittorent under TOR would catch on. Unless you don't mind waiting two weeks to watch your new movie.

Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof

#19

Post by dhx » 

  and even in the event they [cloud providers] found out
  it would be impossible for them to gather data on the users.
The encryption key that is providing disk encryption on the VM instances would be accessible to the VM host. The VM host could also directly access the memory of the VM instances to read the disk cache, etc.

Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof

#20

Post by fafner »

haakon wrote: post #17
S4M wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's gonna be hard to identify who is usung TOR, and doing so will require to take measures that will be against freedom, like controlling what people are installing on their computers.

It's very easy to identify most people who use Tor (almost all nodes are publicly available). You can't know what they use it for, but if merely using it becomes illegal, the secret police will have a very neat list of houses to visit.

They actually try to hide the usage of Tor as much as possible. There was a lengthy talk at 28C3 about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwMr8Xl7JMQ
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