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Found: Medieval Cargo Ship – Largest Vessel of Its Kind Ever

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Re: Found: Medieval Cargo Ship – Largest Vessel of Its Kind Ever

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> On its stern, researchers were shocked to find extensive remains of a castle, a kind of covered deck where the crew would have sought shelter. Records show that castles were distinctive features of medieval cogs, but no physical evidence of them had previously been identified.

I suppose this explains why the thing that exists on more modern ships is called a “forecastle”.

PS go check the pronunciation for that word as it’s quite surprising.

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> Its planks are made of Pomeranian oak from modern-day Poland, and the wood of its frame came from the Netherlands. I'm surprised the raw materials came together over such a distance. That transporting lumber was economical back then is remarkable.

I’m more surprised we can tell so precisely where wood that spent 600 years under the sea came from

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> Its planks are made of Pomeranian oak from modern-day Poland, and the wood of its frame came from the Netherlands. I'm surprised the raw materials came together over such a distance. That transporting lumber was economical back then is remarkable.

Well, as the article says: > Per the statement, the large vessels were made to sail north from the Netherlands, around Denmark and toward the Baltic Sea. [...] Uldum adds that shipbuilders made the cogs as large as possible to transport bulky cargo, like timber Once you've built one cog, you've got the ideal tool to fetch Polish timber to build more!

Yea, this is like the early railroads making steel cheaper via cheaper transport of bulk ore/coal, that made cheaper railroads, that then ship more products made of steel to larger markets opened by the extended rail networks, etc.

This happened with tin all the way back in the Bronze Age, where a lot of it was shipped as ingots from industrial-scale mines / smelters in Cornwall all the way to the Mediterranean empires to mix with copper to make Bronze.

A cog-based auto-catalytic wood industry is super interesting.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too wet to be on tinder though.

Dendrochronology-based age verification is coming soon

Slow clap.

Also, there's a "rings" joke in here somewhere about Tinder not being for finding a marriage but I can't figure it out.

Re: Found: Medieval Cargo Ship – Largest Vessel of Its Kind Ever

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dendrochronology-based age verification is coming soon

Slow clap. Also, there's a "rings" joke in here somewhere about Tinder not being for finding a marriage but I can't figure it out.

Maybe s/marriage/stable marriage/, then we can talk about growing population of multi-ringers.

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> Its planks are made of Pomeranian oak from modern-day Poland, and the wood of its frame came from the Netherlands. I'm surprised the raw materials came together over such a distance. That transporting lumber was economical back then is remarkable.

I live in a late 18th-century rowhouse where there is large stonework for window sills/surrounds/doorways all done in a very specific pink granite that was carved from a shoreline quarry a significant distance away. Massive stones, 100kg+ each, had to be transported by horse-drawn cart, over not-easy-terrain, a distance that would have taken two horses probably 8-9 hours per trip, and enough stones that it was probably 15-20 trips. Let alone the effort that had to have been required to carve surprisingly square/cuboid shapes from solid granite without power tools. It's mindblowing to me that someone was able to afford such a home construction, let alone the time taken to do it, in ~ 1790. It isn't a particularly rare style in this neighborhood either.

Fast forward 200 years, and I was sweating at the cost just to hire someone to deliver new hardwood countertops from a place not much further away. By truck. By a single person. In a single afternoon. No horses required.

Re: Found: Medieval Cargo Ship – Largest Vessel of Its Kind Ever

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, as the article says: > Per the statement, the large vessels were made to sail north from the Netherlands, around Denmark and toward the Baltic Sea. [...] Uldum adds that shipbuilders made the cogs as large as possible to transport bulky cargo, like timber Once you've built one cog, you've got the ideal tool to fetch Polish timber to build more!

Yea, this is like the early railroads making steel cheaper via cheaper transport of bulk ore/coal, that made cheaper railroads, that then ship more products made of steel to larger markets opened by the extended rail networks, etc. This happened with tin all the way back in the Bronze Age, where a lot of it was shipped as ingots from industrial-scale mines / smelters in Cornwall all the way to the Mediterranean empir…

Also this stuff never happens by design. Some entrepreneur notices things and the costs, make a decision, suddenly more products exist, organic trading routes appear. There is no need for computers or grand design or hyper-managerial government. The market solves the problem
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