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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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> 3. Are more worried about their next paycheck and having bad things happen to them related to not paying rent. i feel like a broken record: anyone with a resume good enough for Palantir would have no problem finding work for another company/public sector employer. but they stay.

They pay a lot

Another arm of the murder cult

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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And ppl were worried about China's 1984 style use of Ai, lol. In the end it was greedy software developers that enable this.

This is what happens when one allows oneself to hide in "safe spaces" (like HN) where there's a "no politics" rule enabling people to hide and avoid being confronted with the ramifications of their actions. The entire world runs on technology now. It's all inherently political.

I don't think you can really blame HN specifically here. It's much wider than that; pretty much the tech industry as a whole actively discourages any kind of philosophical reflection on technology, at least the kind that says you shouldn't build something, even if it's profitable.

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The particular problem here is the vast majority of people that are writing this software 1. Don't care, blood is great. 2. Think they are the good guys. 3. Are more worried about their next paycheck and having bad things happen to them related to not paying rent.

I'd like to invite you to prove any three of your points.

You don't think most people are motivated by their personal paychecks?

People need paychecks. Not everyone is going to get to build and lead their own businesses?

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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And ppl were worried about China's 1984 style use of Ai, lol. In the end it was greedy software developers that enable this.

This is what happens when one allows oneself to hide in "safe spaces" (like HN) where there's a "no politics" rule enabling people to hide and avoid being confronted with the ramifications of their actions. The entire world runs on technology now. It's all inherently political.

There have been some insane politics (especially "culture war" stuff) that got laundered through the HN "reasonable discussion" filter, especially from 2021 through 2024. They still come up all the time. HN loves talking about politics when the commenters can get critical mass to grind the libertarian or "anti-woke" axe.

Not to mention every leader of YCombinator has had some kind of wild politics that come from having money that separates you from any kind of consequence.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Is there video for any of that?

If there is proof of it would it change your mind about anything?

Proof is always better. I assume just about everything I hear about politics on the internet is exaggerated until I see evidence at this point.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Pro-tip: when you see a headline on the main page, you don't have to click on it. Just keep scrolling.

While I completely agree in principle, these threads get very very heated so I can kinda see why HN/dang/our reptilian overlords are trying to keep them from becoming a majority of the site (which they easily could be, absent the flagging of these stories).

Sure, within reason.

Also, I totally understand pruning back discussion that is political, and way off the topic of the actual post/story. People should reasonably be able to read and discuss a non-political story without big political discussion springing up.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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If you work for Palantir and if you work on these systems: You have blood on your hands. You know that it's not right what is happening on the ground right now. Do something.

The particular problem here is the vast majority of people that are writing this software 1. Don't care, blood is great. 2. Think they are the good guys. 3. Are more worried about their next paycheck and having bad things happen to them related to not paying rent.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"

Getting a worker to understand that their work negatively affects innocent people is a big uphill battle.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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If you work for Palantir and if you work on these systems: You have blood on your hands. You know that it's not right what is happening on the ground right now. Do something.

The US gov (including ICE) uses all of Microsoft Office for coordination and planning: email, spreadsheets, powerpoint, document generation, etc. Would you say Microsoft employees have blood on their hands too? If not, what makes Microsoft different?

Yes, absolutely. These are criminal scum, on par with pedos. Just look at how they are helping a people getting wiped out from their own territory in the Middle East.
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