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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by tencentshill »

nerdjon wrote: post #52

I am all for criticizing and pointing fingers at trump and this entire administration. But it does say they have been working with ICE for “years” in the article. What is not really clear to me is was the app made worse recently, was it originally commissioned under trump? Nothing about that changes that they should not be working with ICE and they deserve any pressure they get to cut ties. But there is some history…

It was a boring database product in 2011. It expanded in scope over many years, and now has a much larger budget.

"That changed in the second Trump administration, with Palantir now working on ICE’s deportation efforts."

https://www.palantir.com/newsroom/press-releases/homeland-se...

"...Since 2011, Palantir has partnered with HSI"

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by tpurves »

biophysboy wrote: post #62
fourseventy wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Evil X thing happened; therefore, do evil Y thing - go fuck yourself.

[this is a reply to fourseventy] Looking up the violent crime rates by migrants in places like MN, it's effectively zero. As a rule, migrants and immigrants don't commit crimes at anything close to the rate of native US citizens.

Meanwhile in Minneapolis, the overwhelming majority of violent crimes (including aggravated assaults, theft, murders and sexual assaults) are being committed by ICE agents.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by ceejayoz »

throwaway85825 wrote: post #113
lokar wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When the transition to authoritarianism starts elites have a choice to make. History show most will choose authoritarianism.

Larry Ellison wants constant surveillance so everyone will be 'on their best behavior'.

With a little asterisk on the word "everyone".

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by libraryatnight »

nutjob2 wrote: post #78
Sparkle-san wrote: post #25

The Palantro CEO, Alex Karp, is on the record that he approves of what the president is doing in regards to immigration enforcement and the striking of boats in international waters.

Why would he object to illegal acts by the US when they are so profitable.

We need to expect more from our business leaders.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by throwaway85825 »

ceejayoz wrote: post #144
throwaway85825 wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Larry Ellison wants constant surveillance so everyone will be 'on their best behavior'.

With a little asterisk on the word "everyone".

Some animals are more equal than others after all.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by [deleted] »

stackghost wrote: post #45
oxqbldpxo wrote: post #21

And ppl were worried about China's 1984 style use of Ai, lol. In the end it was greedy software developers that enable this.

This is what happens when one allows oneself to hide in "safe spaces" (like HN) where there's a "no politics" rule enabling people to hide and avoid being confronted with the ramifications of their actions. The entire world runs on technology now. It's all inherently political.

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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by andruby »

BuckRogers wrote: post #121
matthewkayin wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Everyone is ok targeting the immigrant populations To echo another commentor, we're not. And even if we were, this is not how it should be done. Enforcing the laws is one thing, but we have to have due process. Without due process, we have no rights.

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And what happens when they deport you, "BuckRogers"?

Proving whether or not someone is supposed to be here requires due process. If they pick up the wrong person (because people have the same name, or look alike, or any reason) and deport them, then what? Are you going to accept that you or your family or friends get deported?

We shouldn't accept any false positives. And that's what due process is.

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