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Re: 25 Years of Wikipedia

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post #10

Wikipedia is and continues to be the best thing that happened to the internet. A shining example of an open platform that works.

Except for their unnecessarily incessant fund raising. There’s zero reason it should happen that often, and that intrusively.

There's a reason why nonprofits have fundraising events throughout the year instead once. Keep engagement going with donors is important.

Re: 25 Years of Wikipedia

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post #4

should have a fate similar to stackoverflow: less contributors, worse (or stale) content, less visits

According to their own stats (visible in the graph some folds down), it seems to have a fairly steady rate of edits. As for visits, it looks quite constant as well https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/10/17/new-user-trends-on-wik...

Re: 25 Years of Wikipedia

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post #10

Wikipedia is and continues to be the best thing that happened to the internet. A shining example of an open platform that works.

Except for their unnecessarily incessant fund raising. There’s zero reason it should happen that often, and that intrusively.

Except for their unnecessarily incessant fund raising. [citation needed]

Fixed.

Re: 25 Years of Wikipedia

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I can't be the only one who feels that Wikipedia's quality has really started to go downhill over the past 5 or so years. I've noticed more and more articles which read as ridiculously partisan, usually around subjects with any link to politics or current events.

That's probably linked to the increasing polarisation in the US, but I get the impression that the sites neutrality policies have gradually been chipped away by introducing concepts like "false balance" as an excuse to pick a side on an issue. I could easily see that causing the site to slowly decline like StackOverflow did, most people don't want to deal with agenda pushing.

Fortunately articles related to topics like science and history haven't been significantly damaged by this yet. Something to watch carefully.

Re: 25 Years of Wikipedia

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Slightly off topic, but now that long context machine translation is roughly on-par with humans: are there any official efforts from Wikipedia, to translate the "best" or "most complete" language version of each article to all other languages? I'd imagine that the effort of getting all languages up to the same standards are just an impossible one and people from "lower-resource" languages would benefit a lot.

At least using Irish as an example, the state of machine translation is still far far behind proper translation unfortunately and wouldn't be up to scratch

Re: 25 Years of Wikipedia

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post #10

Wikipedia is and continues to be the best thing that happened to the internet. A shining example of an open platform that works.

Except for their unnecessarily incessant fund raising. There’s zero reason it should happen that often, and that intrusively.

By now they should be sitting on a billion dollars that safely yields a forever self-funding annual income ($30m-$50m) that would pay for all of their necessary expenses. They would no longer require any donations. It's grotesque and wildly irresponsible how they're managing the organization. If LLMs become the center of knowledge resources going forward (which they will), Wikipedia's funding will decline as their traffic declines, and they'll collapse into a spiral of cut-backs, as they operate on a present structure that burns most of its financial capability annually (this opens them up to a shock to the system on inflection, which is happening now).

Re: 25 Years of Wikipedia

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Slightly off topic, but now that long context machine translation is roughly on-par with humans: are there any official efforts from Wikipedia, to translate the "best" or "most complete" language version of each article to all other languages? I'd imagine that the effort of getting all languages up to the same standards are just an impossible one and people from "lower-resource" languages would benefit a lot.

At least using Irish as an example, the state of machine translation is still far far behind proper translation unfortunately and wouldn't be up to scratch

Yep exactly this, and some languages still haven't been fully digitised https://www.repository.cam.ac.uk/items/a3369c56-abaa-4b67-a1...

Re: 25 Years of Wikipedia

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post #2

This is cute, but kind of an example of Wikipedia's off-mission bloat. It irks me that they constantly fundraise when most of it is not needed for Wikipedia proper, but rather used for initiatives people know less about and may not fund if they knew.

I wonder whether the emergence of a single, true Wikipedia competitor would actually put an end to this never-ending fundraising criticism (since people could simply donate to the competitor as a form of protest)

Projects like Wikipedia never have meaningful competition, because the social dynamics invariably converge to a single platform eating everything else.

Re: 25 Years of Wikipedia

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Wikipedia is overall excellent, and it has certainly brought enormous value to me throughout the years.

But it is noticeably biased on any topic that has political implications.

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