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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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> By failing to accept that you are being selective. Are you not being selective? https://hn.algolia.com/?query=mosura%20Trump&type=comment

That link makes no sense for your comment, but it was an interesting insight into your thinking.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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I have a hunch most people recognize this, but many are ok with it. I have hope (But not confidence) people will see this in the upcoming US elections and more broadly. This is transparent authoritarian behavior. Edit: Challenge: If you downvoted the parent post here (It's currently grey), I would love to hear why you think this doesn't match the pattern. Are you living in the US? I in general am struggling to unders…

I would start with this, because it's a flat out lie > Everyone is ok targeting te immigrant populations because they are "illegal" or live in a gray area of legality. People have been complaining about the attack on immigrants for a good, long while. And the complaining has been getting louder, more frequent, and from more people with every day. When they kidnapped workers and suddenly the price of everything went u…

They should have said "enough are ok" instead of "everyone is ok".

Unfortunately, there are still enough people who are fine with the Trump / Miller / Noem / Bovino approach to immigration enforcement, or they're not impacted personally enough to make them speak or act.

I hope the cartoon villain responses coming from the administration when they're challenged on any of this will get more people to stand up against it all.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Make no mistake, the immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota are only a training ground for how to undermine civil rights for us all. Everyone is ok targeting te immigrant populations because they are "illegal" or live in a gray area of legality. But eventually these same tools will be used against us.

> Everyone is ok targeting the immigrant populations To echo another commentor, we're not. And even if we were, this is not how it should be done. Enforcing the laws is one thing, but we have to have due process. Without due process, we have no rights.

Due process for EVERY person in the legal territory regardless of who or what they are. Otherwise it's way to easy to say, "they're the other, and have no rights", and they are already using this line.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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And ppl were worried about China's 1984 style use of Ai, lol. In the end it was greedy software developers that enable this.

This is what happens when one allows oneself to hide in "safe spaces" (like HN) where there's a "no politics" rule enabling people to hide and avoid being confronted with the ramifications of their actions. The entire world runs on technology now. It's all inherently political.

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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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This is what happens when one allows oneself to hide in "safe spaces" (like HN) where there's a "no politics" rule enabling people to hide and avoid being confronted with the ramifications of their actions. The entire world runs on technology now. It's all inherently political.

>"no politics" No politics is a privilege that many do not have.

It's a privilege that many people working in tech have, who then create and populate forums where discussion of that privilege is considered political and therefore forbidden.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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It's crazy that anybody who has read books could learn about the company "Palantir," know where the name comes from, and join it thinking it's anything other than evil. The thing is, I know palantir engineers are well paid. Money warps people's brains. It's much easier enable evil if you can go back to a home you own in Silicon Valley.

> know where the name comes from

This is a wild point to me, yeah.

The Palantir is literally a cautionary tale on the risks of thinking you can use the enemy's tools without being corrupted by it.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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It's crazy that anybody who has read books could learn about the company "Palantir," know where the name comes from, and join it thinking it's anything other than evil. The thing is, I know palantir engineers are well paid. Money warps people's brains. It's much easier enable evil if you can go back to a home you own in Silicon Valley.

I think they know exactly what they were doing with the naming. They were and are absolutely ok with the evil connotations and uses

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Make no mistake, the immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota are only a training ground for how to undermine civil rights for us all. Everyone is ok targeting te immigrant populations because they are "illegal" or live in a gray area of legality. But eventually these same tools will be used against us.

Musk tweeted yesterday that speaking hate against the country should be considered treason and lead to being locked-up.

It's not hard to shift "anti-American" speech to mean "anti-ICE", anti-current-administration, etc.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Waving signs, yelling and filming is not obstruction

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Slamming people into the ground, firing tear gas canisters into their faces, or killing them are not valid remedies for the state to take even if obstruction is happening. (even if they're being like really annoying with whistles and stuff!)

edit: even if they referred to the ICE agent as "fatty fat fat fat" meanly

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