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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by andsoitis »

smt88 wrote: post #15
the__alchemist wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a hunch most people recognize this, but many are ok with it. I have hope (But not confidence) people will see this in the upcoming US elections and more broadly. This is transparent authoritarian behavior. Edit: Challenge: If you downvoted the parent post here (It's currently grey), I would love to hear why you think this doesn't match the pattern. Are you living in the US? I in general am struggling to unders…

I expect masked ICE agents to be deployed to polls in purple and blue states to "prevent non-citizens from voting" (i.e. to scare minorities away from polls)

> deployed to polls in purple and blue states to "prevent non-citizens from voting" (i.e. to scare minorities away from polls)

MOST states (purple, blue, red) have mail-in voting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_voting_in_the_United_St...

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by fzeroracer »

mosura wrote: post #18
bonsai_spool wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Selectively enforcing only the laws you want to is the key enabler of corruption. That's what the OP is saying.

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You can watch any of these videos I posted a few days ago [1] and tell me why.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46598192

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by RHSeeger »

the__alchemist wrote: post #7
unstyledcontent wrote: post #2

Make no mistake, the immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota are only a training ground for how to undermine civil rights for us all. Everyone is ok targeting te immigrant populations because they are "illegal" or live in a gray area of legality. But eventually these same tools will be used against us.

I have a hunch most people recognize this, but many are ok with it. I have hope (But not confidence) people will see this in the upcoming US elections and more broadly. This is transparent authoritarian behavior. Edit: Challenge: If you downvoted the parent post here (It's currently grey), I would love to hear why you think this doesn't match the pattern. Are you living in the US? I in general am struggling to unders…

I would start with this, because it's a flat out lie

> Everyone is ok targeting te immigrant populations because they are "illegal" or live in a gray area of legality.

People have been complaining about the attack on immigrants for a good, long while. And the complaining has been getting louder, more frequent, and from more people with every day. When they kidnapped workers and suddenly the price of everything went up, there was a lot of "see?!? this is what we're talking about"

So no, "everyone" isn't ok with the targeting of immigrants.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by fourseventy »

the__alchemist wrote: post #7
unstyledcontent wrote: post #2

Make no mistake, the immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota are only a training ground for how to undermine civil rights for us all. Everyone is ok targeting te immigrant populations because they are "illegal" or live in a gray area of legality. But eventually these same tools will be used against us.

I have a hunch most people recognize this, but many are ok with it. I have hope (But not confidence) people will see this in the upcoming US elections and more broadly. This is transparent authoritarian behavior. Edit: Challenge: If you downvoted the parent post here (It's currently grey), I would love to hear why you think this doesn't match the pattern. Are you living in the US? I in general am struggling to unders…

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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by stackghost »

oxqbldpxo wrote: post #21

And ppl were worried about China's 1984 style use of Ai, lol. In the end it was greedy software developers that enable this.

This is what happens when one allows oneself to hide in "safe spaces" (like HN) where there's a "no politics" rule enabling people to hide and avoid being confronted with the ramifications of their actions.

The entire world runs on technology now. It's all inherently political.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by nutjob2 »

andrewvc wrote: post #19

For an idea as to how this gets translated into the reality on the ground here in Minneapolis this is an article on what’s going on from the main newspaper in the state. > In the past week alone, ICE boxed in a Woodbury real estate agent recording their movements from his car, slammed him to the ground and detained him at the Whipple Federal Building near Fort Snelling for 10 hours. A 51-year-old teacher patrolling t…

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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by the__alchemist »

fourseventy wrote: post #44
the__alchemist wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a hunch most people recognize this, but many are ok with it. I have hope (But not confidence) people will see this in the upcoming US elections and more broadly. This is transparent authoritarian behavior. Edit: Challenge: If you downvoted the parent post here (It's currently grey), I would love to hear why you think this doesn't match the pattern. Are you living in the US? I in general am struggling to unders…

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Do you truly believe that is the intent behind the use of ICE in MN and beyond, and that is where it will stop?

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by Kapura »

wutwutwat wrote: post #39
biophysboy wrote: post #12

Per the WSJ, as of January 10th this year, ICE has identified 13 instances of agents firing at or into civilian vehicles, leaving eight people shot with two confirmed dead. Five of those shot were citizens. According to court records, only one of these civilians was armed and never drew his weapon. There is a sickness curdling in the dark corners of Silicon Valley. These people need to be humiliated for being the sni…

"humiliating" folks might not be the proportional response when innocent people are dying

people cannot yet be held accountable; this is an important first step, however.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by jalapenoh »

actionfromafar wrote: post #35
jordanpg wrote: post #4

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Along the same lines, anyone who thinks this is just about immigration should ask themselves what all these tens of thousands of ICE agents are going to do when all the immigrants are finally deported. Are they just going to go home and go back to their old jobs? Or do you think the Administration is going to find something else for them to do.

They might "look for immigrants" near polling stations in November? Would be very bad if "immigrants" (i.e. not wearing a fair face with a matching MAGA hat) could vote, amirite?

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