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Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by pjc50 »

dgroshev wrote: post #280
VBprogrammer wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This government have been in power for less than 2 years. Despite launching a lot of trial balloons on raising taxes they haven't actually raised the headline tax rates (other than allowing fiscal drag to do so). Overall the tax burden in the UK is middling for western democracies. It's actually on the low side for low earners - which is probably a problem because the distribution is such that the majority pay very l…

The biggest problem is that the tax on a median taxpayer is not just "middling", it's a bit over a third of what a median German taxpayer is paying. The rest of the fiscal problems (convoluted tax rules, cliff edges to try to claw something back, abrupt tax increases like the one on pubs) are downstream from that.

> the tax on a median taxpayer is not just "middling", it's a bit over a third of what a median German taxpayer is paying

Could you put the actual numbers in for that please, because to me that implies German tax rates of 120%? Is that across all forms of taxation, including local (the relevant one here!)

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by trgn »

stevefan1999 wrote: post #213
sefrost wrote: post #149

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But if the landlord owns the pub (rare in the UK I know), but I believe it’s the case in this instance, then what are they getting from unrealised property price gains?

Leverages and confidence from the credit agency (be it banks or private investments), and the higher possiblity of approving the borrowing, and thus getting more shitty debts to be made, and contribute more to the total Gee-Dee-Pee which is the holy grail those economists chase after

so basically, none of it realized unless they borrow.

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by dismantlethesun »

hiimkeks wrote: post #282
dismantlethesun wrote: post #204

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The were making 8.5 per hour which above the 2026 youth wage. They also are relating a story from their past and since they have had an account since 2015, I am assuming their youthful past was at least 1 decade ago if not nearly 20 years ago.

No, the 340 were per month, the 40 hours are per week. I usually do back-of-the-envelope calculations with 4.3 weeks per month, which would leave them below 2 EUR/h. Edit: But you are of course right about inflation! According to this website[1] it would bump them to 3.2 EUR/h. [1]: https://www.inflationtool.com/euro-netherlands/2005-to-prese...

Even accounting inflation and the youth wage, that wage sounds too low for the Netherlands.

It should’ve been at least 450 euro equivalent even in 1990, using 2024 value euros.

Source: https://www.boeckler.de/pdf/ta_netherlands_mwdb.pdf

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by pjc50 »

jimnotgym wrote: post #207

One striking feature in the UK is the number of pubs that 'went on fire'. The business is no longer viable, planning constraints (and often listed building constraints, which is protection for historical buildings, many pubs are very old) won't let them do anything else with the building so they sit empty until they spontaneously combust. Soon after they get demolished and regrow as a supermarket or apartments.

This is the hidden tragedy of the "listed building" process. It's actually a sizeable burden on a property, because suddenly there's all these compliance requirements on how you do repairs and upkeep.

_Not_ doing repairs and upkeep is free.

Arson is very difficult to prove.

So the listing process preserves a building exactly as it is, sometimes for decades past its usefulness, until it collapses or burns down.

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Post by alexfoo »

j45 wrote: post #306
alexfoo wrote: post #271

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The UK is just weird about that. Decades of hooliganism (mostly a thing of the past thankfully) has meant that you can't be in possession of alcohol within view of the pitch in the top 5 tiers in the UK. (And by the 5th tier you're looking at matches that have attendances anywhere down to 400 or so, although some clubs in the 5th tier still manage to attract 10000 fans to home games). This spills out into the local c…

No alcohol and physical segregation at the seats seems quite foreign compared to maybe just being able to handle one’s self around alcohol. It’s one way to say hooliganism in the past I guess.

There will always be idiots, regardless of whether alcohol is involved or not, but I'm talking about the levels of hooliganism that were rife in the 80s and 90s, the things that got alcohol banned (when in view of the pitch) at football matches.

That level of hooliganism at games and around the stadiums is a mostly a thing of the past.

The days of open brawls in the stands that you saw in the 80s/90s are gone, you just get the occasional bit of jostling nowadays if that. (I used to do stewarding back in the late 90s and saw a lot of the bad side of things.)

The various "firms" that would meet up for their arranged pre-match fight have dwindled to almost nothing and now there is little fear for away fans walking to/from games. It used to be quite a scary prospect depending on the ground visited.

However, successive UK Governments have repeatedly kicked the can down the road when considering reversing the 1985 ban that stopped people having a drink in view of the pitch.

More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_in_association_footbal...

I don't think any UK political party has the bottle (pun intended) to reintroduce it, it would be a pretty divisive proposal and most political parties try to steer well clear of such things in today's politics.

Things are starting to change though. At some grounds you do have home and away fans mixing in the concourses (the Putney End of Fulham's ground for example) but most grounds in the top tiers are designed to keep home and away fans apart as much as possible.

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by pjc50 »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #259
vixen99 wrote: post #251

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The onus is on you to suggest an alternative. Which countries not under it 'face the same problems'?

- A strong leader and a weak bureaucracy, so that your vote means something. - A good constitution that puts hard limits on what they can do, no boiling the frog with freedom of speech restrictions like Canada, Australia, and The UK So basically an elected dictator with a functioning kill switch. Not a parade of faceless, temporary, unimportant prime ministers and elections which don't matter.

> your vote means something. - A good constitution that puts hard limits on what they can do

Quite a lot of serious problems arise when voters want things that are ""unconstitutional"". What if the voters want speech restrictions? That's a big part of why they're implemented, public/media campaigning for them.

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by 9rx »

OJFord wrote: post #228
9rx wrote: post #208

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> And yet it is the one part of the UK that actually has a language that is spoken by a non-trivial percentage of the population 98% of the UK population can speak English, so I'm not sure where you got that idea. Clearly every part (maybe some small, uncelebrated village breaks the rule) of the UK has a language spoken by virtually the entire population of that region. > (unlike NI or Scotland where a tiny percentag…

Are you joking? They meant Wales, 27.7% of the population of Wales speak Welsh (and yes most of them English too).

Wales/Welsh doesn’t jive under the conditions set. Perhaps you missed "non-trivial percentage"? Outer Hebrides is a part of the UK where ~50% of its residents speak Scottish, never mind England and its English dominance, so clearly ~30% is still considered within trivial range. Otherwise "the one part" doesn't work; seeing many parts of the UK fit the bill.

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by boringg »

trgn wrote: post #312
stevefan1999 wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Leverages and confidence from the credit agency (be it banks or private investments), and the higher possiblity of approving the borrowing, and thus getting more shitty debts to be made, and contribute more to the total Gee-Dee-Pee which is the holy grail those economists chase after

so basically, none of it realized unless they borrow.

Basically better rates to go into more debt. More importantly (and part of the risk) is that they have a safety hatch if they really need to exit the business.

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by zamadatix »

NooneAtAll3 wrote: post #96

Kinda wish there was some way to quickly scroll through the pages... Also data seems to be different when ordered by different values? When ordered by RV£ there are 43703 entries with data. Most negative RV£ change is -£137,500 for 33 Main Road When ordered by RV% there are 43303 entries with data. Most negative RV% change is -87.0% for PAVILLION HOTEL

Seems fixed now. I wonder if it was related to the number of entries with nulls in one of those two fields (but not necessarily both at the same time).

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by boringg »

ipsento606 wrote: post #291
ehnto wrote: post #163

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What does anyone gain from it really, except money in the bank for a handful of individuals, outsized property prices seem to be a hurdle for functional societies in basically every way. It doesn't benefit a town if rent is so expensive that their businesses shut down.

As property prices increase, developers are more incentivized to build new properties and increase density. The increase in supply then lowers prices. The problem comes when local laws and the planning permission system make it hard or impossible to increase the supply of homes. Then there's no balancing force to bring prices down when they go up.

Price rarely ever goes down meaningfully.
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