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Danish Armed Forces expand their presence and continue exercises in Greenland

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Re: Danish Armed Forces expand their presence and continue exercises in Greenland

#31

I wonder how likely Trumps assumption, that Russia or China will take it if he doesn't, is..

They do not really care until the United States takes Greenland. Or NATO outright attacks Russia. Then they do care.

Because controlling Greenland means whoever has it gets excessive control over the Arctic Sea. And both parties, but especially Russia, do not want a party like the United States to have this amount of control given the Arctic is in their backyard.

Re: Danish Armed Forces expand their presence and continue exercises in Greenland

#32
post #19

I feel like this is all going to end up with Denmark agreeing to long-term resource share with USA where USA gets something like 85% in exchange for Denmark getting to keep the title. Nobody is going to war over this and Denmark/EU wants to save face.

Greenland and Denmark have always been encouraging minerals deals etc, they just haven't materialized.

Re: Danish Armed Forces expand their presence and continue exercises in Greenland

#33

Countries without a strong nuclear deterrence don't have a seat at the table in this new geopolitical era. Looking at you, Ukraine, Taiwan and (can't believe I'm saying this) Denmark.

How would nuclear deterrence work for small entities like Denmark or Taiwan against huge entities like US or China? it only works at similar sizes

A nuclear deterrent is still a deterrent, no matter how small. No country (hopefully) wants to risk any kind of nuclear war. Ukraine would never have been invaded if it still had its nukes.

Re: Danish Armed Forces expand their presence and continue exercises in Greenland

#34

Countries without a strong nuclear deterrence don't have a seat at the table in this new geopolitical era. Looking at you, Ukraine, Taiwan and (can't believe I'm saying this) Denmark.

There is a French tripwire force on the ground now as well. Denmark has allies.

Re: Danish Armed Forces expand their presence and continue exercises in Greenland

#35
This is super interesting to watch. NATO will collapse as it is and hopefully Europe will crawl from under the skirt of Americans. I mean being there for 80 years after end of WW2 was a long time to develop some feeling of independence. Greenland is still a price to pay. Carelessness and ignorance aren’t cheap. Or Europe will be only very worried and sad again. I hope not. President Trump is a great wake up call for Europeans. Much better than million russian soldiers.

Re: Danish Armed Forces expand their presence and continue exercises in Greenland

#36
post #20

I wonder how likely Trumps assumption, that Russia or China will take it if he doesn't, is..

1. The U.S. has multiple bases in Greenland. Denmark, and NATO are also present. 2. Russia can't even expand their presence to Ukraine (not a NATO memeber). 3. China has no access. So, 0%.

Currently USA only has one base left: Pituffik Space Base (previously called Thule Air Base). They used to have about 17 bases and several thousand military personnel, but now it's down to about 200. If USA wanted it, they could establish all the bases they wanted and send more people, but they chose to cut down on military presence over the past years. Source: Have worked on that last base several years ago. Also check wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituffik_Space_Base

Re: Danish Armed Forces expand their presence and continue exercises in Greenland

#38

What a waste of resources to have to defend against one of your closest allies. This is a country that went to war on behalf of the US in Afghanistan (and lost 44 souls doing so). Disrespectful and shameful.

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Re: Danish Armed Forces expand their presence and continue exercises in Greenland

#39
Obviously sycophants of the dictator taken over all civil institutions as evidenced by the quality of this term when compared to previous one.

But are there any signs that they have taken over the military? Iran and Venezuela was something they had in mind for decades. But are there any generals itching to test themselves invading Greenland against European military? They don't have to obey the civilians. Rule of law is a thin veneer that this president stripped clean. Now personal interests of the people in power is what matters. Are there any generals with personal interest to invade Greenland and fight Europe? They obviously can develop some but it should take few years at least, right?

Re: Danish Armed Forces expand their presence and continue exercises in Greenland

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post #35

This is super interesting to watch. NATO will collapse as it is and hopefully Europe will crawl from under the skirt of Americans. I mean being there for 80 years after end of WW2 was a long time to develop some feeling of independence. Greenland is still a price to pay. Carelessness and ignorance aren’t cheap. Or Europe will be only very worried and sad again. I hope not. President Trump is a great wake up call for…

> President Trump is a great wake up call for Europeans.

This is not a wake up call. This is more like being stabbed while sleeping over at your best friend's house.

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