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Re: Hacker News supports browsing with a points threshold

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I would like to see a solution that addresses this issue too. Perhaps something like http://news.ycombinator.com/classic but instead of users who have been on HN for a year, you pick the users. Some AI programmers might suggest that HN itself could figure out what users typically upvote the same content as you -- no thanks, I can pick them out myself. A tag/keyword system would be ideal but that's a lot of work and t…

How do you know that someone else has been banned? How do you know if YOU have? What's "hellbanned"? What's "shadow banned"?

You can look them up (the terms that is, not the users), but here's a good start:

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/06/suspension-ban-or-h...

I think they're the same (or at least similar), and basically you're invisible to everyone but yourself.

This is a 'safer' form of banning, as someone who is outright banned would notice right away and might try to get revenge in some way. But, if everything works just like always and they don't realize they're banned, then they won't get upset (and won't raise hell).

Re: Hacker News supports browsing with a points threshold

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I'll be the grouchy contrarian and observe that I frequently don't like the more highly voted submissions. Seems the high point submissions are frequently pop science or culture articles (e.g., "Amateur astronomers discover a planet with four suns" or "A Very Unusual Camera That Emphasizes Time Over Space"), while the lower point submissions are articles I actually learn from (e.g. "Exploring the Virtual Database Eng…

Now all I want is this: http://news.ycombinator.com/under?points=55

Re: Hacker News supports browsing with a points threshold

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Really saves time. I used a threshhold of 35 at first, then I upped it to 50. These days you probably want 75 or 100 if you really want to sift through the less important items. Or you can just subscribe to daemonology's RSS: http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/index.rss . This summarizes the top ten every day. These are most of the important articles; of course you will miss some important things. On the other side…

I use the daemonology top 10 list, but most days I end up reading that, then also scanning the front page directly, because occasionally there are posts I'd like to discuss -- and if I only see the top 10 from yesterday, the discussion is already over and done.

Obviously this defeats the purpose of using a cut-down list to save time, but so it goes; I may try the points filter approach instead of bothering with HN Daily.

Re: Hacker News supports browsing with a points threshold

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I'll be the grouchy contrarian and observe that I frequently don't like the more highly voted submissions. Seems the high point submissions are frequently pop science or culture articles (e.g., "Amateur astronomers discover a planet with four suns" or "A Very Unusual Camera That Emphasizes Time Over Space"), while the lower point submissions are articles I actually learn from (e.g. "Exploring the Virtual Database Eng…

I really really wish there were a filter so that users could eliminate all HN from aggregation sources (read wired, extremetech, etc).

Wouldn't that be relatively easy to do client-side as a bookmarklet or GreaseMonkey script?

(And yes, that's a challenge, lazyweb!)

Re: Hacker News supports browsing with a points threshold

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For the lazy: 1. http://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/10/smoothlifel/ 2. http://selfstarter.us/ 3. http://www.fastcompany.com/3000852/37signals-earns-millions-... 4. http://stackoverflow.com/q/11227809/399268 5. http://ihave50dollars.com/ 6. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4592778 7. http://blog.pinboard.in/2012/01/the_five_stages_of_hosting/ 8. http://www.reddit.com/r/finance/comments/utf5u/where_has_all... 9. http://ne…

Usually the comments are more interesting than articles: 1. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4642133 2. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4643175 3. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4449680 4. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4637196 5. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4395665 6. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4592778 7. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3078128 8. http://news.ycombinator.com/ite…

I often skip the articles, or skim very quickly, and read the comments much more closely, leaving those tabs I found most interesting open for the day and refreshing for updates.

Re: Hacker News supports browsing with a points threshold

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I would like to see a solution that addresses this issue too. Perhaps something like http://news.ycombinator.com/classic but instead of users who have been on HN for a year, you pick the users. Some AI programmers might suggest that HN itself could figure out what users typically upvote the same content as you -- no thanks, I can pick them out myself. A tag/keyword system would be ideal but that's a lot of work and t…

>hellbanned, and looking at your comment history yesterday, seems like an entirely inappropriate response from the mods) Isn't that normally the case here? I've seen more people shadow banned for seemingly no reason than I've seen shadow banned for a legit reason. The whole point of shadow bans is supposed to be to waste the time of obvious trolls, here it is used randomly and seemingly as the only response to any pe…

Any discussion of the hellban procedure seems a quick way to be hellbanned.

It's a horrible, unjust, arbitrary system and is generally abused by anonymous, seemingly petty moderators.

My main account was hellbanned (also slowbanned, and my IP address banned) for apparently replying to the wrong mystery moderator with something he/she didn't like.

Hellbanning on HN is sorely in need of oversight and reconsideration. Hellbanning should be used only for obvious trolls. There are other ways to punish and train bad behavior from legitimate contributors.

Re: Hacker News supports browsing with a points threshold

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I'll be the grouchy contrarian and observe that I frequently don't like the more highly voted submissions. Seems the high point submissions are frequently pop science or culture articles (e.g., "Amateur astronomers discover a planet with four suns" or "A Very Unusual Camera That Emphasizes Time Over Space"), while the lower point submissions are articles I actually learn from (e.g. "Exploring the Virtual Database Eng…

I would like to see a solution that addresses this issue too. Perhaps something like http://news.ycombinator.com/classic but instead of users who have been on HN for a year, you pick the users. Some AI programmers might suggest that HN itself could figure out what users typically upvote the same content as you -- no thanks, I can pick them out myself. A tag/keyword system would be ideal but that's a lot of work and t…

Also, his complaint about speed is likely because he is slowbanned in addition to being hellbanned. It seems pretty clear there are moderators inappropriately hellbanning users for personal gripes.

Hellbanning is an unnecessarily hurtful and cowardly way to deal with people other than outright trolls.

Re: Hacker News supports browsing with a points threshold

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>hellbanned, and looking at your comment history yesterday, seems like an entirely inappropriate response from the mods) Isn't that normally the case here? I've seen more people shadow banned for seemingly no reason than I've seen shadow banned for a legit reason. The whole point of shadow bans is supposed to be to waste the time of obvious trolls, here it is used randomly and seemingly as the only response to any pe…

I've been hellbanned twice.

Were you restored or did you open a new account?
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